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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3296778, member: 24314&quot;]Jaelus, posted: &quot;Anyone who says there are two scales is absolutely, unquestionably correct. When an MS coin gets rub it drops off of the 60-70 scale and enters the 1-58 scale at the top, <i>regardless of where it was on the 60-70 scale</i>. That&#039;s the very definition of a two-scale system.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>P L E A S E - WHO is putting this nonsense out!&nbsp; There is one commercial grading system. <b>ONE</b>.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b30000">ONLY <b>ONE</b></span><b>.</b>&nbsp; Look at the ANA grading Guide.&nbsp; Look at ANY GRADING GUIDE EVER PUBLISHED (except the EAC &quot;net&quot; folly).&nbsp; <span style="color: #660066">If I carry this crap further there are actually TEN different grading scales</span> - figure how I arrived at that stupid <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> opinion.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </i></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;That&#039;s the people getting hung up on wear my friend. [<i><span style="color: #660066">Ditto, You are a respected foil my friend</span></i>] A terribly outdated way to think about coins. You&#039;ve got a beautiful coin and you&#039;re squinting at it looking all over for a tiny hint of rub so you can put it down on the circulated scale instead of the MS scale. <i>Utter nonsense.</i> The TPGs have been moving in the direction of common sense for a while and they should continue to do so.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Here is MY &quot;End of Story&quot;...<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; Anyone is free to buy all the AU coins they wish that have been examined by many of the top professional graders in the country and placed in slabs with MS labels.&nbsp; That&#039;s the way commercial grading has evolved.&nbsp; Low MS#&#039;s = AU.&nbsp; It has been that way for decades!&nbsp; Hopefully in the future, the computers will also be programed to ignore what they can easily detect!</i> </p><p><br /></p><p><i><i>I cannot change commercial grading but I may change some opinions. Thus, m</i>y only reason for posting is to make sure folks know what is going on so they can make a more informed decision when buying a coin.&nbsp; Example: I needed an MS-62 $20 for my teaching set.&nbsp; The major dealer let me look through a batch of 20+ PCGS graded Saints in 62 slabs.&nbsp; I found two &quot;true&quot; MS coins (no trace of wear) and picked the better one with more eye appeal.&nbsp; I could have purchased any coin in the group FOR THE SAME PRICE.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </i></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Honestly, AU58 is a terrible grade that shouldn&#039;t even exist. AU55 is fine - wear visible to the unaided eye. Great. I get it. More power to you. <b><span style="color: #b30000">If there is wear on the coin that must be scrutinized with a loupe to detect, it&#039;s not there.</span></b> MS coin.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>I disagree, AU-58 is a wonderful grade.&nbsp; Unfortunately a top of the range 58 (wonderful, mark free surfaces) is bumped to MS for eye appeal while a beat up 58 with the same amount of rub is downgraded. As to this: &quot;...<b><span style="color: #b30000">must be scrutinized with a loupe to detect</span>...&quot;&nbsp; </b>only tells me that you either have very bad eyesight or <span style="color: #660066"><b>YOU HAVE BEEN EXAMINING COINS WITH THE WRONG TYPE OF LIGHT! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; </b><span style="color: #000000">Ever wonder why florescent light is not recommended for grading?&nbsp; I changed a dealer&#039;s opinion of this light in less than two minutes when he showed me the &quot;gem&quot; he just bought at a show.&nbsp; The next day he added an Ott light to his table!&nbsp; &nbsp; </span></span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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