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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3295932, member: 24314&quot;]baseball21, posted: &quot;Says who a bunch of people that hate change and want to just defend their territory? <span style="color: #0000b3">The system that was decided on many decades ago is inherently flawed and still is.</span>&nbsp; <span style="color: #b300b3">It&#039;s slowly getting worked into something that makes more sense</span> and is more fluid but it obviously cannot happen over night.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><i>Ok, now I get it.&nbsp; I guess I have had you confused with another more knowledgeable member all this time.&nbsp; Perhaps you can explain your opinion in the comments you posted.</i></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>1.&nbsp; <span style="color: #0000b3">The system that was decided on many decades ago is inherently flawed and still is.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><i><span style="color: #000000">What part of the coin grading system used in the 1970&#039;s was flawed?</span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #000000">2.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b300b3">It&#039;s slowly getting worked into something that makes more sense</span> and is more fluid.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Fluid standards are not standards.&nbsp; Additionally, I cannot think of anything fluid below MS-60.&nbsp; What am I missing?</i></p><p><i>&nbsp;</i></p><p>&quot;<b>Plenty of people feel the hard line was flawed</b> and want to see it go away.&nbsp; It will most likely and hopefully continue to erode as time goes forward and with any luck one day we can have a real scale where coins are based on quality and things that lost a fight to a lawn mower won&#039;t ever be graded with a higher number than pristine coins just because that one has a touch of rub.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Plenty of people?&nbsp; Perhaps plenty of the greedy weasels who realized there were not enough MS coins to go around using the old strict standard that was in place before most of them were born.&nbsp; You see, the &quot;hard line&quot; made grading a coin MS much more precise.&nbsp; BTW, precision is one of the most important characteristics of an ideal grading system.&nbsp; We don&#039;t have it now and we never will.&nbsp; Precision (the ability to grade the same coin the same grade) <span style="color: #b30000">can be faked</span> when all graded coins are imaged or marked in some way.&nbsp; </i></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Changes had been happening to coin grading long before anyone on this planet was born.&nbsp; No living generation is an exception for changes either.&nbsp; If your generation really didn&#039;t want the changes it wouldn&#039;t have happened and the businesses of the TPGs would have failed.&nbsp; <b>Plenty of TPGs have failed because the generations of active collectors at the time rejected their product.</b> If the customer base kept saying I won&#039;t buy anything in xyzs holder dealers wouldn&#039;t send them anything.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The lack of ethics at the time without modern communication technology to expose or warn people certainly did give the TPGs a major boost for acceptance though.&nbsp;&nbsp; So yes even if you want to argue that only a couple people were responsible for that change the generation as a whole created an environment where people would accept that change.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Now that we can agree on.&nbsp; Generations of folks decided it would be better to send their AU coin (today&#039;s MS-62 in a large majority of cases) to a TPGS that would grade it MS rather to one that issued its actual condition.&nbsp; They would be STUPID not to play along!</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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