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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3295583, member: 24314&quot;]I need to disagree <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />with you on this occasion:</p><p><br /></p><p>baseball21, posted:&nbsp; &quot;As they should.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; <b><i><span style="color: #b30000">Says who, a bunch of disgruntled coin dealers who picked up the ball in play and moved to another court with rules of their own? </span></i></b>&nbsp; I would be worried if nothing had changed in the last 30 years and I would be worried if 30 years from now they&#039;re the exact same as today. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <i><b><span style="color: #b30000">Yeah, a foot is no longer 12 inches and anywhere you hit a target is a bullseye!&nbsp; Get real.</span></b></i>&nbsp; Things change, things evolve, knowledge expands, that&#039;s part of life and happens in everything. <b><span style="color: #b30000"> How true, but a STANDARD (no trace of wear) should NEVER evolve.&nbsp; And if the &quot;Big Boys and their apologists wish to ignore/corrupt a standard they should at least have the honesty to remove &quot;no trace of wear&quot; from the &quot;standards&quot; they profess to use to grade MS coins! </span></b> You either keep learning and evolve or get left behind. The massive resistance to any sort of change in the hobby is not doing the hobby any favors.&quot;&nbsp; <b><span style="color: #b30000">What is not doing the hobby any favors is the &quot;wiggle room&quot; allowed by calling the exact same coin in the exact same condition of preservation, MS one day and AU the next.&nbsp; Then raising its MS grade (if it gets one again) to a higher number in the passing years.</span></b>&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;The same way your generation &quot;loosened&quot; the standards, and the generation before you did the same and before that the same ect.&nbsp; Every generation has &quot;loosened&quot; aka changed the standards for grading that&#039;s not unique to the TPGs.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #b30000">Don&#039;t blame a generation of collectors on a few who had the power to change things. I think if you study the history of grading, the MS standard was not changed until the 1980&quot;s.&nbsp; There were some changes in the circulated grades - the addition of the AU grade for example.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Except its not crap its the truth.&nbsp; All standards do change over time with the expansion of knowledge.&nbsp; We would still be living in caves hunting with sticks and rocks if they didn&#039;t.&quot;&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> have confused &quot;standards&quot; with inventions, methods, ingenuity, and human development (the expansion of knowledge you called it). <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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