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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;baseball21, post: 3293023, member: 76863&quot;]Mint state which is a grading term fits better.&nbsp; It&#039;s not perfect nor have I ever said it was, my whole point the entire time was the flaws in the system and terms and how they needed to evolve. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would disagree there and certainly concede that it may be a matter of semantics on how we look at things and define terms.&nbsp; Technically yes both could be a 58, but I would argue that details xyz is part of the grade.&nbsp; I certainly understand that some people would separate details verse straight grade out with the term condition, personally I do not.&nbsp; I would say that if we had two coins where the first was a straight graded 58 and the other was a details 58 that the details aspect was part of the grade.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>To me a coins grade incorporates everything.&nbsp; I don&#039;t believe in pure technical grading as I think there are short comings with that method, rather I view a grade as something that would take into account the condition for the final number.&nbsp; I don&#039;t have a problem with numerical details grading at all and prefer it for circulated grades, I just cannot separate condition from grade when I view one as part of the other.&nbsp; If we were talking about ancients I would probably have a different opinion as I do not view them as suitable for the 1-70 scale.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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