I pointed out to eBay seller that the coins at both links below are not genuine, to which he essentially told me to mind my own business. I can understand how an inexperienced seller might be fooled by the coins in the first offering, but certainly not the second. Especially after he informed me that he's not inexperienced, and has been selling gold coins on eBay for 5 years with no negative feedback (like that means a lot!). https://www.ebay.com/itm/265434869757?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=96ad02d394a7479c88baed4536e863b5&bu=43178638503&osub=-1~1&crd=20211205102810&segname=11051&sojTags=ch=ch,bu=bu,osub=osub,crd=crd,segname=segname,chnl=mkcid https://www.ebay.com/itm/265437800875?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=e3af78be53de4eb79d29b0c662f4d439&bu=43178638503&osub=-1~1&crd=20211205100250&segname=11051&sojTags=ch=ch,bu=bu,osub=osub,crd=crd,segname=segname,chnl=mkcid He has been reported to eBay (twice now), but his listings remain up. Anyone else feel like helping out?
That '51 is a joke. I wrote to the seller then Ebay surveyed me about the contact seller function. When asked why I was contacting the seller I selected other and wrote in item listed is a counterfeit. No response from either party yet.
What I find hilarious is the seller's insistence that anyone questioning the authenticity should not prompt even the slightest inclination to re-evaluate the coin . . . . . . unless, of course, he already knows the answer. .
Sometimes you feel like you are punching a rock, you just can't win. I've been in similar situations on Listia. Trying to correct someone in their listing and only trying to help can elicit some pretty harsh responses. I keep on keepin' on though. Some do get it.
And concerning the other lot, both two Indians have tooling marks at the back of the neck and the 1915 has extruded rim to the right, uncharacteristic of the date.
I think the seller knows but also knows he can't sell fake coins on ebay. He probably thought nobody would notice.
So long as it’s made of gold, the first item does not matter. Even if the coins are genuine, they have been wrecked so badly by jewelry use that they are worth the scrap value, not even melt. The “1851” is so bad that it’s funny, at least to a collector who knows anything about the genuine item. Unfortunately some people, who know nothing, would be fooled. Believe it or not, the president of the first coin club I joined was buying worse counterfeits than this from the club treasurer. The “gold dollars” were so bad that they looked like the “California fractional gold pieces” that Woolworth was selling for $2 in the 1960s. They were crude castings that even had the mold stems hanging off them. The treasurer was charging the president $75 apiece for these things, which was the retail price for Uncirculated Type I Gold Dollars at the time, the early 1970s. Needless to say, I was not a popular guy with club treasurer after I told the president about what he was buying.
