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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 4118288, member: 22331"]I personally have determined that REASONABLE negotiation will tell much, and I'm always open to same. My standard for REASONABLE is less than 5% from a "comped" market price, based on actual sales. If the offered price is within 5% of average sold prices, it shouldn't be insulting, but many only want negotiating when they are the buyer.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm no longer an eBay negotiator, as it appears the general attitude is one of absolute resolution, with no flexibility. However, if an item has been discounted from previous pricing, there may be latitude. Because of my relatively expensive purchases, I generally only "deal" with well established dealers, usually B&M with large inventories, where Gold classic coins may be under-graded.</p><p><br /></p><p>Large volume dealers may be accepting of an offer on multiple items that have been in inventory for an extended period, of abnormally exceptional quality,with fair pricing, but unsold because of an unstable market.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will try to find multiple certified items that are graded below the current standard. An example of same is a classic Gold coin with flawless fields, lustrous, with minimal "device" bag marks in prominent locations. Especially when an earlier date, with a preferred mint mark for the coin type, having a lower uncirculated grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will watch until the dealer has acquired some new material of exceptional quality, offered at a fair market price for a lesser quality coin. I will then make a "lot" price on multiple extraordinary quality items, along with an older date, inventory coin having fair presentation with an exceptionally desirable mint mark.</p><p><br /></p><p>2 days ago I made an offer on a $5 and $10 under-graded Gold classic coin having MS61 and MS62 grading that should have been nearly Gem grade, along with a Type II $20 MS62 desirable mint-mark coin, having virtually no prominent bag marks, and even lustrous fields.</p><p><br /></p><p>I made an offer of ~97% fair market list price for the lot, with an order to purchase the $5 and $10 undergraded coins at listed price, regardless of consideration. I now have 3 additional coins on order for my collection. I've dealt with the seller for years, and they know I'll return as their inventory changes.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "process" may be time intensive, but an ultimately very "rewarding" win-win experience that can be applied to any coins, with patience/perseverance.</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 4118288, member: 22331"]I personally have determined that REASONABLE negotiation will tell much, and I'm always open to same. My standard for REASONABLE is less than 5% from a "comped" market price, based on actual sales. If the offered price is within 5% of average sold prices, it shouldn't be insulting, but many only want negotiating when they are the buyer. I'm no longer an eBay negotiator, as it appears the general attitude is one of absolute resolution, with no flexibility. However, if an item has been discounted from previous pricing, there may be latitude. Because of my relatively expensive purchases, I generally only "deal" with well established dealers, usually B&M with large inventories, where Gold classic coins may be under-graded. Large volume dealers may be accepting of an offer on multiple items that have been in inventory for an extended period, of abnormally exceptional quality,with fair pricing, but unsold because of an unstable market. I will try to find multiple certified items that are graded below the current standard. An example of same is a classic Gold coin with flawless fields, lustrous, with minimal "device" bag marks in prominent locations. Especially when an earlier date, with a preferred mint mark for the coin type, having a lower uncirculated grade. I will watch until the dealer has acquired some new material of exceptional quality, offered at a fair market price for a lesser quality coin. I will then make a "lot" price on multiple extraordinary quality items, along with an older date, inventory coin having fair presentation with an exceptionally desirable mint mark. 2 days ago I made an offer on a $5 and $10 under-graded Gold classic coin having MS61 and MS62 grading that should have been nearly Gem grade, along with a Type II $20 MS62 desirable mint-mark coin, having virtually no prominent bag marks, and even lustrous fields. I made an offer of ~97% fair market list price for the lot, with an order to purchase the $5 and $10 undergraded coins at listed price, regardless of consideration. I now have 3 additional coins on order for my collection. I've dealt with the seller for years, and they know I'll return as their inventory changes. The "process" may be time intensive, but an ultimately very "rewarding" win-win experience that can be applied to any coins, with patience/perseverance. JMHO[/QUOTE]
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