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Message:: [QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 4979951, member: 105098"]Did you take a look at the variety and a few examples, Familiarize yourself with it and see Stage ABCD or just guessing it's a stage D with a lot of bag marks? Not saying you are right or wrong, just curious how you came to this conclusion. As far as red designation, you don't think it's at least 95% red or more? Also I'm not saying it's worth $400 or the grade is correct, and I'm not saying it's wrong either. The coin is clearly a dog at first impression so why is it not only mint state, but a top population coin to boot? Do you believe NGC can make such a huge error in judgement or are there things to be learned from it's example?Could all of this happen to it since it's been slabbed maybe? I'll tell you that's a wrong answer for sure <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It's a good preliminary evaluation. It's not a stunner appearancewise at all. First thought is absolutely "yuck, why? are they crazy?" Oh and one more thing to add, it's not the pictures or a trick of light angling or filters either. I could have done that to make it much harder and make it look a lot better these are similar pictures to the NGC Cert look up. It's about as accurate to appearance as it can get without seeing it in person.[/QUOTE]