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<p>[QUOTE="TuckHard, post: 4067050, member: 102653"]The weight system and where it comes from is probably the hardest part of the research for me. As far as I can muster from the sources I've read, it appears that the majority of scholars believe that the massa weight system was an indigenous system that was developed in Java around the 8th century and it was not tied to foreign weight systems despite using several loanwords from Sanskrit. To me, the prospect of the Indonesian weight system being tied, or at least reflecting upon, to Indian weights would be quite possible given the huge amount of other cultural and religious concepts that were used by the Javanese royal elite that first appeared in India. </p><p><br /></p><p>With the ratti weight, I really need to look into it more but I haven't came across any published works that adopt it to the Indonesian massa coins. There are plenty of online auction listings (like the Stephen Album you linked) that list the weight in rattis as well but it doesn't appear that there were any inscriptions from the time or anything else that would indicate that they practiced this when the coins were in circulation. With that, I have noticed that nearly every auction that does list the weight in rattis claims it to be '2.4 grams = 1 massa = 20 rattis'.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope this helps some and I apologize for any errors or misunderstandings, I'm still studying the weight systems used.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TuckHard, post: 4067050, member: 102653"]The weight system and where it comes from is probably the hardest part of the research for me. As far as I can muster from the sources I've read, it appears that the majority of scholars believe that the massa weight system was an indigenous system that was developed in Java around the 8th century and it was not tied to foreign weight systems despite using several loanwords from Sanskrit. To me, the prospect of the Indonesian weight system being tied, or at least reflecting upon, to Indian weights would be quite possible given the huge amount of other cultural and religious concepts that were used by the Javanese royal elite that first appeared in India. With the ratti weight, I really need to look into it more but I haven't came across any published works that adopt it to the Indonesian massa coins. There are plenty of online auction listings (like the Stephen Album you linked) that list the weight in rattis as well but it doesn't appear that there were any inscriptions from the time or anything else that would indicate that they practiced this when the coins were in circulation. With that, I have noticed that nearly every auction that does list the weight in rattis claims it to be '2.4 grams = 1 massa = 20 rattis'. Hope this helps some and I apologize for any errors or misunderstandings, I'm still studying the weight systems used.[/QUOTE]
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