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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 4066025, member: 93416"]Hello [USER=102653]@TuckHard[/USER] </p><p><br /></p><p>By coincidence I recently saw a weight with such a vase (Purna-Kumbha) on it – surely for checking exactly this ‘4 massa’ standard (it is 9.88g). Write me off group if interested in more details</p><p><br /></p><p>What is your opinion of the weight system in use for these coins?</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, it looks to me like the “4-Massa” coin is really near enough the same as 4 Indo-Greek drachms, thus close to the same Ratti standard used by the Indo-Greeks through Kushans.</p><p><br /></p><p>That is to say – at the time of issue, the “4-Masa” coins would be Tolas of 96 rattis, and thus your “massa” would really be 3 ancient Indian mashas each of 8 rattis…….</p><p><br /></p><p>I note Album took a different view to me on this example:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/stevealbum/browse?a=424&l=414224" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/stevealbum/browse?a=424&l=414224" rel="nofollow">https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/stevealbum/browse?a=424&l=414224</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Its a complicated issue, and I think we need to tread carefully</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T</p><p><br /></p><p>PS Note - I still have not resolved my differences with SA over even Abd al-Malik’s standard!!![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 4066025, member: 93416"]Hello [USER=102653]@TuckHard[/USER] By coincidence I recently saw a weight with such a vase (Purna-Kumbha) on it – surely for checking exactly this ‘4 massa’ standard (it is 9.88g). Write me off group if interested in more details What is your opinion of the weight system in use for these coins? Personally, it looks to me like the “4-Massa” coin is really near enough the same as 4 Indo-Greek drachms, thus close to the same Ratti standard used by the Indo-Greeks through Kushans. That is to say – at the time of issue, the “4-Masa” coins would be Tolas of 96 rattis, and thus your “massa” would really be 3 ancient Indian mashas each of 8 rattis……. I note Album took a different view to me on this example: [URL]https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/stevealbum/browse?a=424&l=414224[/URL] Its a complicated issue, and I think we need to tread carefully Rob T PS Note - I still have not resolved my differences with SA over even Abd al-Malik’s standard!!![/QUOTE]
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