Discovery DDO Error Process Report. (Results)

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  1. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    About a year and a half ago I stumbled onto a Doubled Die Obverse (DDO) 2010 Iron Age/Works British 2 pound coin. I could not find any other reported and searched TPG’s with no results. I accumulated 11 of these DDO’s as a few I found and a few came for sale (in the UK) after I obtained mine. The doubling is in the outer rim and also the three initials under the bust portrait and slightly at the portrait outline.

    (6 still ungraded)
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    I sent 3 to PCGS to get them listed and 1 to NGC. I asked about the discovery annotation as they had no others reported. Upon calling both they said that was mainly for US coins and up to the grader to assign the discovery label.

    (4 graded)
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    An esteemed member here at the beginning of the year requested I send one of the coins to ICG as they would assigned a discovery label and grade the coin. I did that and they held the coin for some time as they wanted to report it to coinworld etc. They recently sent the coin back to me with the label.

    (ICG submission)
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    I had prior contacted the British Royal mint and talked with their staff. The referred me to the Royal Mint Museum who handles their error coins. After providing them HD pictures of the coins they stated it appeared to be die chatter based on the photos.
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    They further stated I could send in a coin for in hand review and would get a findings report in a few months. Die Chatter is what they refer to as machine doubling (MD).
    I decided to send one coin to them as I had several and believed they would return it. I then sent the coin back with their own report and stood by their Die Chatter as you can see from the final report. (in error they put 50 pence instead of 2 pound)

    (the coin I sent to them)
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    After talking to several British coin business’s and collectors they stated that errors were only recently becoming big across the pond and that the Royal Mint is terribly beat up concerning errors so it was very likely even based with hard evidence they would change their opinion.

    Anyway I figured I would share the results of the Royal Mint and ICG as I was asked.
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    those are super cool. I like the doubling. awesome. anymore of those on the market ?
     
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  4. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    My guess would be that a few hundred escaped and there are probably more available and being found.
     
  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I don’t care who attributes what to that doubling, it’s very cool. I’ve noticed error coins are at times seen as blemishes to the queen, crown, land, etc. as such, they’re not as accepted or desired the way they are in the US. Thanks for your diligence and for sharing. You have us error collectors drooling.
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

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  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I wonder which part of the this two parted coin, graded AU ..
     
  8. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    thanks for the feedback. I really loved this one
     
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  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    It must be hard minting coins that have the image of a living person on them,
    especially when said minting is deemed to effect that persons Public Image.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting.. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  11. coloradobryan

    coloradobryan Well-Known Member

    Thats a great doubled die! Quite obvious the royal mint isnt using the single squeeze method.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Wow, that is a fantastic DDO. Extremely wide separation. On a US coin, that would be front page numismatic news.

    And, cool story about your efforts to get this recognized.
     
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  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I personally would love to own one of those. That is a great doubled die.
     
  14. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys I have always loved major errors and my coin collecting started in 2001 from one of those. I think DDO/DDR are my favorites among errors more of the 1955 Cent type and not the I need a microscope to see it.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This would make an interesting story in World Coin News, both the discovery and the Royal Mint's opinion.
     
  16. coinquest1961

    coinquest1961 Well-Known Member

    That's a nice one and definitely NOT the result of "die chatter." It's is a true hub-doubled doubled die. Congratulations! You may want to send a specimen to CONECA for inclusion in their publication "The Errorscope." Contact them at http://varietyvista.com/

    This may help you to get another slabbing service to slab it as a discovery coin although I think ICG is fine.
     
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  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Plaudits to ICG... do you think @Insider might have graded that one :)
     
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  18. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    Die chatter my hiney! Beautiful DDO. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  19. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    He was the one that helped me get it sent to ICG. I'm very grateful for his help.

    I will do that thanks.
     
  20. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    @britannia40 You're a good influence on me. I just went and bought this doubled die coin 2003 India 2 Rupees off Ebay...sellers pics...

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    Doubled Die Mania. see what you started ? thank you. :cool::cat::cat::cat:
     
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  21. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Actually I like that one it looks nice. Im glad im making you get happy purchases.

    this is my second favorite Doubled Die I have. I got this in a group from heritage.
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