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Message:: [QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1405335, member: 15929"]Tell that to the folks who buy off late night TV. The coins may not be worth it to some but are definitely worth it to others. Of course, the real "value" of a collected coin is determined by what the "average educated" buyer will pay for it 9 out of 10 times. As for the OP's post, cleaning along with grading is nothing more than an opinion which may or may not have a basis in fact. Judging the degree of cleaning on ANY coin based upon a photograph has the same merit as judging the "grade" of the coin based on the photograph. It all boils down to the TPG's "opinion" which can change from submission to submission. I personally have resubmited "Genuine - Cleaned" coins only to have them grade the second time around. One "specific" coin was a 1961 Washington Type B Reverse with a 6% Clip. The first submission came back cleaned. The crackout resubmission came back MS63. For that matter, the TPG's have taken "cleaning" (as well as grading) to a whole new level in that, what was once a nice coin for a DANSCO now is not "good enough" simply because some TPG said it had been cleaned. I find it odd that folks will look at a photograph of a coin which a TPG has deemed "cleaned" and agree that, yes, this coin has been cleaned yet they will argue endlessly on the grading merits of a coin from a photograph.[/QUOTE]