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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;statequarterguy, post: 1405282, member: 21782&quot;]I generally only buy raw coins, unless it’s a heavily counterfeited one.&nbsp; I believe, as mentioned above, if it’s over 75 years old, it’s been cleaned to some degree, whether or not it’s slabbed.&nbsp;&nbsp; The reason the market does not accept “cleaned” coins is the TPG’ers have enabled inexperienced buyers, who buy the label first, and have no perception of what eye appeal means to a coin’s value.&nbsp; Thus, I see a lot of “uncleaned” coins that have terrible, blotchy toning or other problems selling for more than “cleaned” coins with more eye appeal.&nbsp; As for me, I’d probably pay more for a lightly cleaned XF coin than a supposedly uncleaned VF coin.&nbsp; Yes, there are harshly cleaned coins that are worth less, but that should be because their eye appeal is much less than a lower grade “uncleaned” coin.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The whole concept of eye appeal appears to have given way to labels, even when comparing two uncleaned coins. Take for example the difference between an MS69 and MS70 or the difference between two MS69&#039;s, one an &quot;early release&quot;.&nbsp; Is there really significant different eye appeal between the two, enough to command significant differences in price?&nbsp; Or have the TPG’ers convinced us to buy “rare” labels?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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