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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 753219, member: 66"]Unfortunately when it comes to the Shield nickels it is flawed. The proof shield nickels often were struck only once and as I mentioned the edges often are NOT squared off. If it wasn't for the existence of pieces that clearly are proofs (Strong mirrors and cameo contrast) and that there are records of proofs being struck, we would probably have decided long ago that they DIDN'T make proofs. After all what can you really point to to tell them apart. They used the same dies for both, struck the coins just one time, most proofs don't have squared edges, poor quality mirrors, and the business strikes often have prooklike surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mark, I'm glad you like Michael Wescott's book. I was one of the contributors and I helped with some of the editing. I think if I remember correctly though the patched S is the FIRST S in STATES. That first S broke on the master hub and a great many of the shield nickel dies have the top of the S broken. On one of the 1880 proof varieties the top of the S was crudely recut straight across by hand to patch it. (I'm operating on memory here from a study I made of proof shield nickel varieties back in the late 80's. Unfortunately I can't double check my notes as most of them were lost in my 1997 apartment fire.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 753219, member: 66"]Unfortunately when it comes to the Shield nickels it is flawed. The proof shield nickels often were struck only once and as I mentioned the edges often are NOT squared off. If it wasn't for the existence of pieces that clearly are proofs (Strong mirrors and cameo contrast) and that there are records of proofs being struck, we would probably have decided long ago that they DIDN'T make proofs. After all what can you really point to to tell them apart. They used the same dies for both, struck the coins just one time, most proofs don't have squared edges, poor quality mirrors, and the business strikes often have prooklike surfaces. Mark, I'm glad you like Michael Wescott's book. I was one of the contributors and I helped with some of the editing. I think if I remember correctly though the patched S is the FIRST S in STATES. That first S broke on the master hub and a great many of the shield nickel dies have the top of the S broken. On one of the 1880 proof varieties the top of the S was crudely recut straight across by hand to patch it. (I'm operating on memory here from a study I made of proof shield nickel varieties back in the late 80's. Unfortunately I can't double check my notes as most of them were lost in my 1997 apartment fire.)[/QUOTE]
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