Dipping is bad, mmmkay?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by SuperDave, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    This is what overdipping looks like. I won't reveal the seller because there's no doubt in my mind that he's not responsible for this horror. I've never seen anything else like this from him, and he makes no attempt to represent it as anything but "evaluate this coin yourself" with images always good enough to do so.

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  3. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

  4. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Out of curiosity, in 10-100 years, do you think it will recover from the dipping and look somewhat normal?
     
  7. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    Lol yeah too much money.
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Julian Liedman.... Redbook contributer and member of the PCGS board of experts. Selling his business strike as a proof. He had more than one of these that he claimed was a proof.
     
  9. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    If he is on the PCGS board of experts, my first question is: why is the coin in an NGC (Details) slab? (Maybe there are rules against them submitting their own coins to PCGS?)
     
  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Dang...just noticed the price!!!
     
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  11. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    that is way overprice for a polished coin. it should only be 50 dollars.
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Usually he uses ANACS.
     
  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    not even
     
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  14. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I think the coin @SuperDave posted has a chance to recover and gain some sort of dark color back someday.

    Sorry if I may have hijacked the thread. Back on topic
     
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  15. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

  16. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    RIP this coin. Someone done killed it dead. :(
     
  17. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    No kidding.... Yikes
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Not as a Mint State piece. The microstructure which forms luster is physically removed, and cannot return. It can only recover through circulation, obviously in one's pocket in this case, as a coin with more wear.

    I've been waiting for one like this to post here, as an illustration of what overdipping does to a coin. It's not always easy to photograph realistically.

    And it's final.
     
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  19. Cascade

    Cascade The Blind VAMmer

    That coin needs to eat some Member Berries to remember the good times! :p

     
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  20. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Dipping is bad, mmmkay?

    No, dipping is actually sometimes healthy for the coin...OVERdipping is bad. The problem is knowing how much is too much.
     
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  21. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    It's actually a good candidate for a coin doctor tone job. I'd bet a good doc could layer-on a market acceptable toning onto this one, which would hide the hits and transgressions nicely. Looking into my crystal ball, I see MS66 or maybe MS67 in this coin's future, with many oohs and ahhs as it gets a green bean. Cynical? yes, but I've seen such coins and I'm sure this is an intermediate step in the process. It's just that the seller, like most folks who dip coins, is unethical enough to destroy a coin by dipping (maybe it was really ugly...), but still ethical enough (or perhaps simply unskilled at the craft) that they don't go further and retone it into a monster.

    This is one reason I like copper, as it's easier to detect these kind of shenanigans.
     
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