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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3164553, member: 19463"]I hate to see us referring new people to online auction results like those of CNG when they ask the inevitable beginner question, "What is it worth?" TIF gave a fine overview of the situation demonstrating the range of small differences in grade and great differences in style but even legitimate beginners tend to see the $1950 result where two well financed collectors butted heads rather than the boatload of more ordinary examples with the $150 to $200 estimates. We also need to remember that while CNG may sell a coin for a good price, the rest of us will receive considerably less. </p><p><br /></p><p>I hate to see us beating up on someone for the watermark even though I agree they are a bad idea. Their appropriateness is seen differently in some fields, I suspect including Mr. Gardner's Wildlife Art group, than it is in the ancient coin circle. Rules of appropriate practices vary and I doubt he expected to get the response he did. I regret it when we drive off new people for the wrong reasons but I know we don't all agree on the definition of a new person we appreciate and one we 'Ignore'. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To me, this question sums it up. Adding a watermark to seller's images as if they were your own work is a despicable thing to do (this comes from someone with more coin images given free to the world than most). Why do we question that he did not take the photo himself? It is a decent but not exceptional image as good as many of us produce but not something likely to be stolen due to its high art value. We could use a few more people here who try to take decent coin photos and might help with a share of the load answering queries on photography.</p><p> </p><p>Welcome to Coin Talk Ancients, Mr. Gardner, if you are still here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3164553, member: 19463"]I hate to see us referring new people to online auction results like those of CNG when they ask the inevitable beginner question, "What is it worth?" TIF gave a fine overview of the situation demonstrating the range of small differences in grade and great differences in style but even legitimate beginners tend to see the $1950 result where two well financed collectors butted heads rather than the boatload of more ordinary examples with the $150 to $200 estimates. We also need to remember that while CNG may sell a coin for a good price, the rest of us will receive considerably less. I hate to see us beating up on someone for the watermark even though I agree they are a bad idea. Their appropriateness is seen differently in some fields, I suspect including Mr. Gardner's Wildlife Art group, than it is in the ancient coin circle. Rules of appropriate practices vary and I doubt he expected to get the response he did. I regret it when we drive off new people for the wrong reasons but I know we don't all agree on the definition of a new person we appreciate and one we 'Ignore'. To me, this question sums it up. Adding a watermark to seller's images as if they were your own work is a despicable thing to do (this comes from someone with more coin images given free to the world than most). Why do we question that he did not take the photo himself? It is a decent but not exceptional image as good as many of us produce but not something likely to be stolen due to its high art value. We could use a few more people here who try to take decent coin photos and might help with a share of the load answering queries on photography. Welcome to Coin Talk Ancients, Mr. Gardner, if you are still here.[/QUOTE]
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