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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2497985, member: 19463"]We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Neither description fits the coin as I see it but I believe both describe the same coin as copied by Webb. Did he even look at a coin or just copy other lists? I do not see a walking figure but one standing with planted feet spread wide and twisting in the act of hurling the thunderbolt as described by the legend. The body points left but the head right so it would seem there could have been more detail in the description. The question to me is why Webb felt the need to add 168 at all. Did he believe there was a coin without eagle? He would then have listed it as "same, without eagle". I know he was working fast with many more important coins to list but without seeing coins making it clear there was a need for two listings, I'll stick with it being an error copied from unknown source. </p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, there is precedent for Jupiter appearing in this period with and without eagle so there certainly could have been a bird free die. Of course these (from different mints) are clearly standing and holding rather than hurling. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]529620[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]529621[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2497985, member: 19463"]We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Neither description fits the coin as I see it but I believe both describe the same coin as copied by Webb. Did he even look at a coin or just copy other lists? I do not see a walking figure but one standing with planted feet spread wide and twisting in the act of hurling the thunderbolt as described by the legend. The body points left but the head right so it would seem there could have been more detail in the description. The question to me is why Webb felt the need to add 168 at all. Did he believe there was a coin without eagle? He would then have listed it as "same, without eagle". I know he was working fast with many more important coins to list but without seeing coins making it clear there was a need for two listings, I'll stick with it being an error copied from unknown source. BTW, there is precedent for Jupiter appearing in this period with and without eagle so there certainly could have been a bird free die. Of course these (from different mints) are clearly standing and holding rather than hurling. [ATTACH=full]529620[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]529621[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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