Difficult quiz - edges.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Insider, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Thing thing I first noticed with #1 is how razor sharp and square the edge corner is.
     
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  3. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    With #2, what are all the striations and “wood grain” appearance parallel to the reeds? Is that normal?
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    longshot, posted: "Yes my first thought was if we are taking in the whole scope of the last 400+ years of world coins, I haven't much idea. Maybe Insider will narrow it down a bit for us.??"

    These are all US coins and only one is genuine. It would not be so difficult if the rest of the coin were posted. Number 5 is a cast counterfeit gold dollar. The "line" around the edge is a seam made by the mold.
     
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  5. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

  6. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    The only thing that bothers me about my original choice, #4, are the vertical "seams" centered on each raised portion of the reeding. Look like incomplete filling of a mold.

    I'll switch to #1 and figure it's a proof, although the proportions look to be too small.

    If the correct choice is either #2 or 3, no fair using what looks to be a damaged coin.

    Z
     
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  7. Lev99

    Lev99 Member

    I think 3 looks most real at least on uniformity, followed by 1 as some sort of special minted (distortion and shadowing messes with photo). Curious to see the results.

    Some edges look pressed, while some look like they’ve taken on the stamping cuts (shear marks?) from the dies or from production methods.

    2 looks filed.
    4 the left indent(?) is huge compared to the others.

    Quality control and die usage matter. A mint that replaces worn dies earlier may have better edges than an operation on a shoe string budget.
     
  8. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    #1 Too perfect to be any American coin I’ve ever handled.
    #2 looks like a die was used instead of the rolling method used in American coinage
    #3 Not recognized by me as any American coin I have ever handled
    #4 My pick for genuine American reeding based on my eye memory
    #5 I would call this a laughable counterfeiters attempt.
     
  9. Lev99

    Lev99 Member

    I’m not sure if it’s normal, but guessing shear marks. Kinda like a donut cutter pushing down into dough. Straight cut down.
     
  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    We're waiting... ;)
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think #2, #3, #5 can be excluded from being genuine, especially #5 with the seam.

    Since I’ve never seen (or don’t recognize) the edge pattern of #1, I’m picking #4 which looks like a Morgan Dollar.
     
  12. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    I think all are genuine except #5.

    Steve
     
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  13. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    That was my very close second, for the same reason - a proof
     
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  14. Lawrence Chard

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  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm nervous about #4, because I see what look like numerous pimples or raised dots in the recessed areas. I'm not seeing how that could happen on a real strike. Chips in the collar? Debris deposited after the strike?
     
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  16. kkm

    kkm Active Member

    I'm going to say no to #1 because the "grooves" are completely perpendicular. #2 just looks fishy, like there's some solder on there or something. #5 is such a bad counterfeit that my first thought when I saw it was, "That's a chocolate coin."

    I'm down to #3 and #4. #4 looks the most "normal," but the spacing between the ridges is inconsistent. #3 looks a little fishy, but maybe it is just worn/damaged.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    And now I'm trying to figure out how I overlooked that. :oops:

    I'm leaning toward 3, I can see it as a coin struck in a heavily worn collar and then getting some impacts from circulation. Looking forward to the reveal.
     
  18. Lev99

    Lev99 Member

    @Insider you remember the magnification level on photos?
     
  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Can you explain what you mean by "rolling method?"
     
  20. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I'm with @Kkm on the inconstant spacing on #4 as well. That was the biggest determining factor for me changing my vote to #1.
     
  21. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I am going with worn die / overlapping reeding on coin 3
     
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