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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 2682521, member: 66&quot;]Die State refers to the amount of wear the die receives during use and is a continuous slow transition from a sharp new die through a heavily worn flowlined die ready for retirement.&nbsp; We speak of early, middle, late, and very late die states but there is no point in the dies life where you can point to it and say &quot;Here is where it changed from Early to Middle, or Middle to Late&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Die Stage refers to specific discrete steps or events that happen in the life of the die where you CAN point to the coin and say &quot;this happened before the event, or this coin was struck after such and such event so it is an earlier or later die stage.&nbsp; Events that can create stages are things like clashes, cracks, extensions of cracks, die chips, die crumbling, cuds, die polishing.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example say you have a new die, then it clashes, then a crack develops, then the clash fades away either from wear or being polished off, then another crack develops and the die is retired.&nbsp; This is a dies with four distinct die stages.</p><p><br /></p><p>And die stage may have no relation to die state.&nbsp; Say you have a die that only strikes say 1000 coins before it is retired, but during those thousand strikes it started as a new die, suddenly developed a major rir to rim crack, and then a piece of the die broke away and fell off creating a cud.&nbsp; You now have coins that come in early, middle, and late dies stages, but all of them are made from an early die state with no real die wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is also possible for the opposite to happen and a die go through its whole life without having any distinct damage happen to it (no chips, cracks, clashes etc.).&nbsp; In which case you have early , mid, late, and very late die states, but they are all the same die stage.</p><p><br /></p><p>What causes confusion is sloppy use of language where the two terms are used interchangeably.&nbsp; They aren&#039;t the same thing and they should be used properly to avoid such confusion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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