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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4631721, member: 110350"]Coincidentally, I mentioned in the Fonteius/galley thread a couple of days ago that back in 1990, John Melville Jones's <i>Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins</i> had already objected to the use of the term "caelator" or "celator" for coin die engravers. See p. 43:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is the entry for "Scalptor," at p. 281:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Jones doesn't identify the person or persons who had misused the term celator, so I don't know if he was referring to Sayles (whose publication began three years before Jones published his book) and/or others. In a Google Books search with results ordered by date, I found nothing from before 1987 using celator or caelator to refer to engravers of ancient coin dies. Instead, the term caelator seems to have been used to refer to, e.g., ancient engravers of inscriptions on bronze and copper plates, and to casters of inscribed bronze stamps (<i>signacula</i>) (see <i>The Oxford Handbook of Roman Epigraphy</i> p. 113 (2015)) (<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Roman_Epigraphy/Z2bDBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22caelator%22&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Roman_Epigraphy/Z2bDBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22caelator%22&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Roman_Epigraphy/Z2bDBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq="caelator"&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover</a>), as well as to engravers of silver, gold, and other precious metals. I noted citations to Cicero, Quintilian, and Pliny the Elder for such uses of the term.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4631721, member: 110350"]Coincidentally, I mentioned in the Fonteius/galley thread a couple of days ago that back in 1990, John Melville Jones's [I]Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins[/I] had already objected to the use of the term "caelator" or "celator" for coin die engravers. See p. 43: This is the entry for "Scalptor," at p. 281: Jones doesn't identify the person or persons who had misused the term celator, so I don't know if he was referring to Sayles (whose publication began three years before Jones published his book) and/or others. In a Google Books search with results ordered by date, I found nothing from before 1987 using celator or caelator to refer to engravers of ancient coin dies. Instead, the term caelator seems to have been used to refer to, e.g., ancient engravers of inscriptions on bronze and copper plates, and to casters of inscribed bronze stamps ([I]signacula[/I]) (see [I]The Oxford Handbook of Roman Epigraphy[/I] p. 113 (2015)) ([URL='https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Roman_Epigraphy/Z2bDBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22caelator%22&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover']https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Oxford_Handbook_of_Roman_Epigraphy/Z2bDBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq="caelator"&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover[/URL]), as well as to engravers of silver, gold, and other precious metals. I noted citations to Cicero, Quintilian, and Pliny the Elder for such uses of the term.[/QUOTE]
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