Die Crack or Wire?

Found this 2022p Sally Ride quarter with a raised line running through Washington’s head. The line doesn’t appear to be pmd.. thoughts please. Also, is this md on IGWT?

 

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Please show full pictures of both sides.

IN GOD WE TRUST is Die Deterioration doubling.
Worthless doubling with circulation damage.

 

yes, worthless. Just a 1998 quarter. I’m trying to find a coin with doubled lettering. I’ve got the md down! Lol.

 

Dan - as noted by Mr. Ed, the IGWT shown above is the result of Die Deterioration. There may be some evidence of MD at work too, but most of what you are seeing there is the result of an aging die.

The initial item (2022) above may be a strike through specimen. It is important to show the full obverse/reverse of specimens you like feedback on (e.g., when asking about RPMs, DDOs/DDRs) and descriptors like the anomaly you see is incuse or in relief since sometimes it is difficult to tell from photos (you have the benefit of having it in hand and 3 dimensional viewing). More information usually helps us dial in faster for you.

Folks here are always available to discuss and analyze specimens. We enjoy seeing the finds other members come across; occasional gems pop up here at CT.

 

Kevin, I’ll add full images later. As for additional info on the crack or line on the 2022 quarter, the line is raised. I took the tip of a sharp pencil and pulled it over the line. I could see the tip rise as it was pulled over the line. The graphite fell on both sides. I saw something like this before and the person was calling it a brush wire mark? If it was pmd, a scratch, most of the graphite would fill the scratched out area. Jmho.

 

I think a few more pictures will yield you an answer you can trust. You attracted at least one heavy hitter so far. If it's raised, it's probably a crack (displaced metal flows into the crack in the die), but it may be a berm of material raised about a scratch. Incuse would suggest a struck through event where something (wire, nail, other) gets in the way during coining and leaves an impression. We shall see.

 

It looks like a die crack but full sized photos of both sides are needed.

 

Front and back.

 

Couple more pic

 

If someone finds another one, die crack. Until that I’m in the scratch camp

 

if it was a piece of something that shouldn’t be part of the process, it may never resurface. If this is scratched, why would it look filled in and raised? At the very end of the line, it does look like a possible deep scratch or gouged out area?

 

Example. This 1999 quarter has some serious scratches and dings. The valleys from a scratch should be deep instead of raised? Perhaps another will surface. Tks

 

The front is a die crack and it’s a nice one. Definitely looks raised to me. I don’t see anything on the reverse but I’ll admit to being tired and my eyes aren’t focusing at the moment. Can you point out where you see what you are seeing?

 

the arrows point to what I believe is a crack or wire. The mark at the bottom looks like a bag mark, ding, or scratch? The circled area is the only spot where the quarter is showing depth or depth.

 

The area in question on his neck looks like it took a hit. The long raised line from the B in LIBERTY to just shy of the hit on his neck is a die crack. No wire was involved.
When a die develops a crack metal flows into that crack on the die when the coin is struck. This leaves a raised line on the coin.

 

It looks like a scratch to me. Looks like Displaced metal west of the area in question.

 

It looks like a berm of metal either side of the scratch. The gouge may/may not be related to the scratch (e.g., a different event).

 

kevin, the nature of a scratch is ,I believe, a sharp object pulled across a surface. A scratch would run across all high points and force metal to either side like a berm, which is not the case here. The berm you mention is possibly shadowing on either side of the raised line. If this was a scratch, wouldn’t it appear across all of the high ridge points or peaks and not so much in lower valleys. I do not see a scratch mark on all of the high points but there is a line in the lower valleys? How is this even possible? I’m not sure this is even a die crack. I’m leaning towards foreign material on planchet, if possible. Tks

 

Kevin, here is an example of what could be a scratch. Marks on a 2017 Rogers Clark qt.

 

Hi Dan - this 2017 looks like a struck through wire with a contact mark under the O. The image is cropped just as the left end approaches the rim. Perhaps it's a scratch/gouge that enters the rim.

On the 2022, it looks like it enters the rim. If it were struck through wire, it would be incuse in the field and in lower areas of the design. If it is a crack, it would be raised and generally, ragged and irregular.

With it in hand, are you seeing one or the other? Both but in different areas as noted in your labeled image?