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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2674019, member: 24314&quot;]<span style="color: #5900b3">Rather than &quot;multi-strikes,&quot; what do you think about calling that characteristic &quot;multi-clashes&quot; as we all should know they occur when there are multiple times the dies touched w/o a planchet. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3">This is getting very confusing <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.&nbsp; Die clashes occur with one cycle of the press where some abnormality (<span style="color: #00b300">whatever you said X,Y,Z</span>) which I hoped &quot;we&quot; were trying to find out, causes the dies to touch <b>one time</b>.&nbsp; This will produce similar coins having the single clash.&nbsp; If the dies (<span style="color: #00b300">that are clashed once already</span>) touch again w/o a planchet another additional clash will appear on the next coins struck.&nbsp; On and on, and on untilt the dies break or are removed and refinished.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #000000">In post#21, Ordinary Fool questioned my post and wrote: &quot;It is all about Z.&quot;</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: #5900b3">I&#039;ll buy that.</span> &quot;However, when somebody asserts a coin cannot be a die clash because the impression is incuse and not high relief.......... and generally goes on to assert it is a vice job, well.&quot;&nbsp; <span style="color: #5900b3">Well what?&nbsp; Die clashes can be both raised or incuse.&nbsp; I someone questions this <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> think about what a clash would look like in this example: If the reverse banner on a Barber half (the banner is raised with incuse letters) was transferred to the obverse by a clash. What would it look like?&nbsp; </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #000000">&quot;It should be quite evident by reading what has been posted here and other places, much confusion exists.&nbsp; <span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #000000">If you were to take a poll and ask if die clash coins present reversed mirror images of everything, including the alpha-numerics, I suspect you&#039;d be surprised how divided the results would be. And they can only be one way or the other, always.&quot;&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #5900b3">No poll necessary.&nbsp; Nothing posted on CT surprises me.&nbsp; Read just about any thread and it proves your point.&nbsp; This thread has become very confusing because many of us have never had any basic numismatic instruction.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #5900b3"><br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #5900b3"><span style="color: #5900b3">So far, the OP has taught me that something in the vertical distance (Z?) of the dies causes clashes.&nbsp; What about the momentum of the dies?&nbsp; Hummm.&nbsp; </span></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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