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What grade would you assign?

  1. AG

  2. G

  3. VG

  4. F

  5. VF

  6. XF

  7. AU

  8. MS

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  1. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member

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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Well-Known Member

    I voted xf ...

    What grade would you assign?
    1. AG
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    5. VF
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      XF
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    7. AU
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd agree with a 40 on that but no higher.
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Also XF. Borderline AU but all things being equal a classic XF.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

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  7. kkathyl0

    kkathyl0 Active Member

    I said XF but could say a little lower.
     
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  8. Legoman1

    Legoman1 Active Member

    XF, definitely not AU.
     
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  9. USCoinCollector42

    USCoinCollector42 Well-Known Member

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  11. RICHARD K

    RICHARD K MISTY & SASHA

    AU light wear on headress
     
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  12. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    XF 45-AU50.
     
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  13. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    That's how I voted, VF. I'm looking for a nice '87, but would pass on that one. This one's got a bit more detail for reasonable money on ebay. I would probably pass on this one for the marks on the cheek; also VF IMHO. YMMV
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  14. tmeyer

    tmeyer Active Member

    I would say XF also.
     
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  15. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat dave700x

    I went with XF.

    And yes I voted of course....
     
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  16. PROTOTYPE

    PROTOTYPE New Member

    Not a grader, being long lived I have seen a thing or two- AU 50...……….
     
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  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I can't quite tell if there's any remaining separation between the hair and ribbon, so to err on the side of caution I'd label it Ch VF.

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  18. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Active Member

    I’m not seeing an EF, and definitely not AU..... The wear on the ribbon, Bust, and feather tips of her headdress, and the contact marks are making me see a VF35- Choice for a VF, but too much wear and hits to qualify for an AU.

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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Already voted twice this year.
     
  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The hits won't have a significant impact on grade - the grade is determined more by the wear than contact marks for circulated coins.

    For this coin, you have to factor in the strike. Often, Indians were struck lacking details in the feathers - you can't use that as a single point of guidance. Compare the Indians in Photograde to the one shown here: https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Indian/Grades

    What you see is, in EF-40, there is still a good bit of wear on the feathers. But, there is also considerable wear evident on the bow and leaves on the reverse, and the headband looks quite a bit flatter. The coin shown here just doesn't have as much wear as you would expect for an EF-40 - which leads me to believe that a weak strike on the feathers is confusing the grade.
     
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  21. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Active Member


    Thanks for the clarification, Jason, I see what you are saying, especially about the feathers. A weak strike didn’t even cross my mind, but then again I’m not at all familiar with Indian Cents or the strike intricacies of different dates. I also know what you mean about the contact marks, I kinda inserted a personal preference into my post- I think such marks greatly affect eye appeal, yet you do have a valid point that they won’t usually affect grade.
     
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