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<p>[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 7947956, member: 84905"]Many thanks. I found a third piece on acsearch. So I have four pictures below. They are clearly die-identical, from what I can see.</p><ul> <li>There is a dot under the V in AVG on the obverse. It was deliberately placed by the die sinker. Do such dots occur on official solidi of that time?</li> <li>The spelling THEODOZ(inverted)VS instead of THEODOSIVS shows that if the coin is a modern fake, the forger intended to create the impression of a barbaric imitation. I don't think that such a spelling mistake would have occured at the mint in Constantinopel.</li> </ul><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b> 1. Nomos auction of Feb. 2021 (top left)</b></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7816370" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7816370" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7816370</a></p><p>Nomos has a very good picture that gives a good impression of the surfaces, which I think look convincing. (4.41g)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>2. UBS auction 2008 (top right)</b></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=499408" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=499408" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=499408</a></p><p>They also attribute the coin to Ostrogoths. (4.46g)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>3. My coin, which, according to my information was found in Ukraine (bottom left)</b></p><p>To me, the surfaces look good. I cannot see any signs in the fabric that would lead me to doubt the coin. (4.43g)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>4. The coin from Forum Ancient Coins </b></p><p>The picture's quality is too poor to judge. (4.41-4.23g)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1376624[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is an article on Theodosius imitation from the Barbaricum</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/30369724/Once_more_on_the_Theodosius_II_solidus_imitation_found_in_Tarn%C3%B3w_In_B_Chudzi%C5%84ska_M_Wojenka_M_Wo%C5%82oszyn_Eds_Od_Bach%C3%B3rza_do_%C5%9Awiatowida_ze_Zbrucza_Tworzenie_si%C4%99_s%C5%82owia%C5%84skiej_Europy_w_uj%C4%99ciu_%C5%BAr%C3%B3d%C5%82oznawczym_Ksi%C4%99ga_jubileuszowa_Profesora_Micha%C5%82a_Parczewskiego_Krak%C3%B3w_Rzesz%C3%B3w_2016_pp_79_88" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/30369724/Once_more_on_the_Theodosius_II_solidus_imitation_found_in_Tarn%C3%B3w_In_B_Chudzi%C5%84ska_M_Wojenka_M_Wo%C5%82oszyn_Eds_Od_Bach%C3%B3rza_do_%C5%9Awiatowida_ze_Zbrucza_Tworzenie_si%C4%99_s%C5%82owia%C5%84skiej_Europy_w_uj%C4%99ciu_%C5%BAr%C3%B3d%C5%82oznawczym_Ksi%C4%99ga_jubileuszowa_Profesora_Micha%C5%82a_Parczewskiego_Krak%C3%B3w_Rzesz%C3%B3w_2016_pp_79_88" rel="nofollow">https://www.academia.edu/30369724/Once_more_on_the_Theodosius_II_solidus_imitation_found_in_Tarnów_In_B_Chudzińska_M_Wojenka_M_Wołoszyn_Eds_Od_Bachórza_do_Światowida_ze_Zbrucza_Tworzenie_się_słowiańskiej_Europy_w_ujęciu_źródłoznawczym_Księga_jubileuszowa_Profesora_Michała_Parczewskiego_Kraków_Rzeszów_2016_pp_79_88</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There is no picture of the coin, but the legend was given as follows:</p><p><br /></p><p>D. N. THEODOVS P. F. AVG. and II XXXXII COP.XVII P. P</p><p><br /></p><p>So clearly a different coin, but a similar shortening of the emperor's name</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another study of an imitative solidus of Theodosius II</p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/43758222/A_solidus_of_Theodosius_II_from_Opaka_in_the_context_of_other_finds_from_district_Lubacz%C3%B3w_dated_to_AD_5th_century" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/43758222/A_solidus_of_Theodosius_II_from_Opaka_in_the_context_of_other_finds_from_district_Lubacz%C3%B3w_dated_to_AD_5th_century" rel="nofollow">https://www.academia.edu/43758222/A_solidus_of_Theodosius_II_from_Opaka_in_the_context_of_other_finds_from_district_Lubaczów_dated_to_AD_5th_century</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, its a different type, but the find spot is close to the area where my coin was reportedly found.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>PS I just found another one. That one was sold in a Spink auction in 2018:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5105512" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5105512" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5105512</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1376639[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In my view the condemnation of the coin is not justified. I think it was done on the bases of style alone. The person who condemned the coin expected a more official style and was perhaps not familiar with barbaric imitations. Perhaps the condemnation was even based on this grainy catalog picture.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 7947956, member: 84905"]Many thanks. I found a third piece on acsearch. So I have four pictures below. They are clearly die-identical, from what I can see. [LIST] [*]There is a dot under the V in AVG on the obverse. It was deliberately placed by the die sinker. Do such dots occur on official solidi of that time? [*]The spelling THEODOZ(inverted)VS instead of THEODOSIVS shows that if the coin is a modern fake, the forger intended to create the impression of a barbaric imitation. I don't think that such a spelling mistake would have occured at the mint in Constantinopel. [/LIST] [B] 1. Nomos auction of Feb. 2021 (top left)[/B] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7816370[/URL] Nomos has a very good picture that gives a good impression of the surfaces, which I think look convincing. (4.41g) [B]2. UBS auction 2008 (top right)[/B] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=499408[/URL] They also attribute the coin to Ostrogoths. (4.46g) [B]3. My coin, which, according to my information was found in Ukraine (bottom left)[/B] To me, the surfaces look good. I cannot see any signs in the fabric that would lead me to doubt the coin. (4.43g) [B]4. The coin from Forum Ancient Coins [/B] The picture's quality is too poor to judge. (4.41-4.23g) [ATTACH=full]1376624[/ATTACH] Here is an article on Theodosius imitation from the Barbaricum [URL='https://www.academia.edu/30369724/Once_more_on_the_Theodosius_II_solidus_imitation_found_in_Tarn%C3%B3w_In_B_Chudzi%C5%84ska_M_Wojenka_M_Wo%C5%82oszyn_Eds_Od_Bach%C3%B3rza_do_%C5%9Awiatowida_ze_Zbrucza_Tworzenie_si%C4%99_s%C5%82owia%C5%84skiej_Europy_w_uj%C4%99ciu_%C5%BAr%C3%B3d%C5%82oznawczym_Ksi%C4%99ga_jubileuszowa_Profesora_Micha%C5%82a_Parczewskiego_Krak%C3%B3w_Rzesz%C3%B3w_2016_pp_79_88']https://www.academia.edu/30369724/Once_more_on_the_Theodosius_II_solidus_imitation_found_in_Tarnów_In_B_Chudzińska_M_Wojenka_M_Wołoszyn_Eds_Od_Bachórza_do_Światowida_ze_Zbrucza_Tworzenie_się_słowiańskiej_Europy_w_ujęciu_źródłoznawczym_Księga_jubileuszowa_Profesora_Michała_Parczewskiego_Kraków_Rzeszów_2016_pp_79_88[/URL] There is no picture of the coin, but the legend was given as follows: D. N. THEODOVS P. F. AVG. and II XXXXII COP.XVII P. P So clearly a different coin, but a similar shortening of the emperor's name Here is another study of an imitative solidus of Theodosius II [URL='https://www.academia.edu/43758222/A_solidus_of_Theodosius_II_from_Opaka_in_the_context_of_other_finds_from_district_Lubacz%C3%B3w_dated_to_AD_5th_century']https://www.academia.edu/43758222/A_solidus_of_Theodosius_II_from_Opaka_in_the_context_of_other_finds_from_district_Lubaczów_dated_to_AD_5th_century[/URL] Again, its a different type, but the find spot is close to the area where my coin was reportedly found. PS I just found another one. That one was sold in a Spink auction in 2018: [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5105512[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1376639[/ATTACH] In my view the condemnation of the coin is not justified. I think it was done on the bases of style alone. The person who condemned the coin expected a more official style and was perhaps not familiar with barbaric imitations. Perhaps the condemnation was even based on this grainy catalog picture.[/QUOTE]
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