Did Pontius Pilate exist?

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  1. 2x2 $averKrazy

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    even Mick Jeager knew who Pilot was and he was probably stoned!
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  3. 2x2 $averKrazy

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    somthing about the flag blowing in the wind with no wind on the moon
  4. 2x2 $averKrazy

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    politics & religion are always disasterous in a public discussion!
    careful or Herod will have your head on a silver platter !!!
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  5. ancient coin hunter

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  6. hotwheelsearl

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    Conveniently leaving out the fact that there’s no atmosphere meaning that any motion will continue in motion for a significantly longer time than on earth ...
  7. 2x2 $averKrazy

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    that was the debunk theory !
    pretty sure they where there!
  8. Santinidollar

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    Does anyone really think that if the moon mission had been faked you could have kept everyone’s mouth shut for 50 years?
  9. desertgem

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  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    If Pontius Pilate did not exist, then Rome did not exist either. What is this ??
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  11. Theodosius

    Theodosius Unrepentant Fine Style Freak! Supporter

    Best approach is to ignore these people.

    Don't discuss their ideas, that is what they want.

    Stop feeding the trolls.

    They can easily find this thread through Google.

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  12. hotwheelsearl

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    The hypothesis is that Rome, as we know it, was ACTUALLY medieval Europe.

    Taking the Phantom Time Hypothesis (which posits that the Early Middle Ages didn’t exist) to a whole other level.

    PTH at least says that 300 years are fake; These guys say that a full 1500 years are fake!

    Honestly it’s completely stupid but I can’t stop readin.

    Like how if you smell something really bad you often take another sniff?
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  13. Coin Pedant

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    True, this isn't even specific to Pilate. Most medieval depictions show historical figures in their culture's fashion.

    (Above) two separate medieval illustrations of Alexander the Great's legendary submarine (one medieval European and the other Arabic), both represented in the artists' cultural styles.
    This can be seen in many medieval texts. This is just one example.
  14. Coin Pedant

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    Also Hotwheelsearl, you seem to have an obsession with this website. Try posting a rebuttal to their point and see if they can actually support their claims:D:D
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  15. Coin Pedant

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    As a follow up, the forum claims that Pilate only gained his 'roman toga look' in the late 18th early 19th century due to conspiracy. However the post fails to mention that during this period, the neoclassical fashion had set in, with a deeper appreciation for classical civilisation and study of Greece and Rome being encouraged. Study of the Elgin Marbles all the way to Schliemann's archaeology at Troy reflects a 19th century push to understand these civilisations. The post fails to see how greater cultural events and attitudes towards civilisation/empire in the 1800s are responsible for a more accurate depiction of historical figures in later media.
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  16. Coin Pedant

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    Forgot to say: the 'evidence' used by the forum is ridiculous and still does not prove that Pilate didn't exist. It's just that a medieval artists (usually monks) didn't know what ancient cultures dressed like.
  17. Hey guys, since were on this subject how about a trivia question! Remember the puppet show "Punch and Judy" where the Roman soldier was beating the guy with a sword. Its been banned in the US for 30 years or more as being to violent. That puppet show is over 1200 years old. Guess who Punch and Judy are named after? The subject of this thread gives you a hint.
  18. Dougmeister

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    "The Punch and Judy show has roots in the 16th-century Italian commedia dell'arte. The figure of Punch is derived from the Neapolitan stock character of Pulcinella, which was anglicized to Punchinello. He is a manifestation of the Lord of Misrule and Trickster figures of deep-rooted myths. Punch's wife was originally called 'Joan'."


    How does the subject of this thread give us a hint? Unless Wikipedia is wrong <gasp!>...
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  19. littlehugger

    littlehugger Active Member

    It reads like other ridiculous conspiracy theories. We never landed on the moon, big foot. Area 51.
  20. Unless the Trivia and other books like World History are wrong, Punch and Judy are named after Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot. Hence the Roman themed soldier with the sword. That show did not originate in the 16th century but took its roots from a basic showing of it. It is older than that. There were many variations of the show over the earlier centuries. Not saying your wrong. I was first told about the show when I first entered the Catholic school. We were warned by the nuns never to watch that show because it depicted Christ being brutalized by the Romans. Where they got that from I cant say but it sure wasn't from an Italian comedy. Back to our coin thread.
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  21. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A New Member

    Take in consideration the importance of the Vatican Library that has the only copys of the written word since it began and is only accessible by a few. How much would it change history as we know it if scholars were allowed to research it? It is fact that in countless archeological excavations items discovered do not belong to the time period when they were found. Many civilizations over millions of years have existed and had their own versions of deities relative to their belief systems. Pontius Pilate did absolutely exist (the inventor of Pilates) and was indeed a king as history has recorded. The many civilizations aforementioned were destroyed by their own hands through technological advances just as we are now. It is a cycle that repeats and disappears thru-out times. Every civilization has had a monetary system of which none of them survived to the present day and ours will also soon collapse, there is no other outcome. Oh the idiocracy of this post. As far as coins go and I love the hobby and the people with their funny quirks that are in it.
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