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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1313757, member: 112"]I don't know how else to explain it, but the TPGs assume nothing. If it cannot be proved, then they will not say one way or the other - period. This makes a great deal of sense when you think about it since they have to guarantee what they say and back it up with their own money. And they are quite consistent in this regard. Not just with unidentifiable mint marks, or no mint marks, but with everything else as well. We can know for a fact that a given coin was only minted in 1 specific year, or 2 specific years. But unless there is a clear, identifiable date on the coin itself then the TPG will not place a date on the slab - period. Instead they will place a date range covering the entire period of time of the King's/Queen's/Ruler's rule. The same thing goes for varieties, it must be able to be proved, beyond a doubt that a given coin is a certain variety or that coin will not be designated as such. And it's not just the TPGs, the ANA is the same and uses the same rules.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes we can assume a great many things. But precisely because there are exceptions to some of those assumptions, assumptions are simply not good enough. Nor should they be.</p><p><br /></p><p>You see, it's what we don't know that is dangerous. It's what we don't know that makes assumptions exactly that, an assumption. A guess in other words. And guessing is a long, long way from proof.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can guess or assume that a given cent with no mint mark was minted at Philly. But you do not <u>know</u> that it was minted at Philly because some were minted at West Point and they have no mint mark either. So your assumption could be wrong. Same thing with the ASE's. Most people don't know those things, and like I said it's what we don't know that is dangerous when it comes to making assumptions.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe simply isn't good enough. It must be a certainty.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1313757, member: 112"]I don't know how else to explain it, but the TPGs assume nothing. If it cannot be proved, then they will not say one way or the other - period. This makes a great deal of sense when you think about it since they have to guarantee what they say and back it up with their own money. And they are quite consistent in this regard. Not just with unidentifiable mint marks, or no mint marks, but with everything else as well. We can know for a fact that a given coin was only minted in 1 specific year, or 2 specific years. But unless there is a clear, identifiable date on the coin itself then the TPG will not place a date on the slab - period. Instead they will place a date range covering the entire period of time of the King's/Queen's/Ruler's rule. The same thing goes for varieties, it must be able to be proved, beyond a doubt that a given coin is a certain variety or that coin will not be designated as such. And it's not just the TPGs, the ANA is the same and uses the same rules. Yes we can assume a great many things. But precisely because there are exceptions to some of those assumptions, assumptions are simply not good enough. Nor should they be. You see, it's what we don't know that is dangerous. It's what we don't know that makes assumptions exactly that, an assumption. A guess in other words. And guessing is a long, long way from proof. You can guess or assume that a given cent with no mint mark was minted at Philly. But you do not [U]know[/U] that it was minted at Philly because some were minted at West Point and they have no mint mark either. So your assumption could be wrong. Same thing with the ASE's. Most people don't know those things, and like I said it's what we don't know that is dangerous when it comes to making assumptions. Maybe simply isn't good enough. It must be a certainty.[/QUOTE]
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