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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4855025, member: 19463"]My two wins arrived yesterday. Both included a level of disappointment but not a level that would result in a return. I believe it is just plain wrong to look at any auction including Frank's as 'approvals'. You are agreeing to buy the coins. Frank owns the coins he auctions rather than taking consignments and can sell returns for poor reasons to someone else. It is not like many auctions who have consignors awaiting payment. In the past 30 years, I recall a couple instances when I was offered a coin on which I was underbidder but I do not know if those were returns or coins never paid when won by people not trusted with his early shipment practice. We all make mistakes and there will always be differences in opinions. My coins this time were one of each.</p><p><br /></p><p>The mistake (actually two mistakes) was lot 185, a Livia, dupondius. The original listing said the coin was the Restitution by "Vespasian". When I bid (very early) I told Frank to look again and he agreed that it was a Titus. The printed list still shows the error but Frank corrected the one online. There are no coins of this type by Vespasian and this one does show the T. When the coin (beneath the notice of those of you who will not touch a Fine) arrived it was housed in a flip from Asta (83,323) in San Marino identifying it as the original Drusus issue. That is a much more embarrassing error to be made by a seller claiming to deserve a high buyer's premium. I do note that I paid a lot more for the coin than it was sold for by Asta but I do not know if Frank made that profit or if it passed through several hands between the two sales. I paid too much but that is the only way we buy things at auction. I like the concept of the later restitution coins and did not have this type either original or restored. Sure, I would rather have a prettier one but this is what it is and was accurately shown in the photo. </p><p>PIETAS / IMP T CAES DIVI VESP F AVG RESTIT - SC</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172329[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The difference of opinion was lot 396, a Sasanian drachm of Peroz. It was listed as a clear mintmark of Gor mint. Frank uses a difference resource for Sasanian ID's than I do and I failed to double check the listing. It is a nice coin and upgrades my previous one that I had identified as AT mint. That means I have another duplicate for disposal. Interestingly Frank graded his coin as Choice AEF while my other one was ex. Triskles (January 2018) as EF. That, folks, is why I spend a lot more on FSR sales than on Triskles. As usual with Frank, this Sasanian came in a hard plastic round. Some Sasanians are thin and could break in the mail. I assume Frank has had a problem with that in the past. Peroz is not from the fragile period but there is nothing wrong with being careful.</p><p><br /></p><p>FSR AEF (my new one) - weaker reverse but better portrait[ATTACH=full]1172334[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Triskles EF (my old one) - You might argue it has less wear but that striking void across the face does not support EF IMHO. Obviously, the reason I won the coin was other bidders were more careful and did not bid on it. I would appreciate it if any of our Sasanian experts disagrees with my feeling the two are the same type/mint or could see any reason to keep both. The old one is not a bad coin but the new one is better.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172331[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4855025, member: 19463"]My two wins arrived yesterday. Both included a level of disappointment but not a level that would result in a return. I believe it is just plain wrong to look at any auction including Frank's as 'approvals'. You are agreeing to buy the coins. Frank owns the coins he auctions rather than taking consignments and can sell returns for poor reasons to someone else. It is not like many auctions who have consignors awaiting payment. In the past 30 years, I recall a couple instances when I was offered a coin on which I was underbidder but I do not know if those were returns or coins never paid when won by people not trusted with his early shipment practice. We all make mistakes and there will always be differences in opinions. My coins this time were one of each. The mistake (actually two mistakes) was lot 185, a Livia, dupondius. The original listing said the coin was the Restitution by "Vespasian". When I bid (very early) I told Frank to look again and he agreed that it was a Titus. The printed list still shows the error but Frank corrected the one online. There are no coins of this type by Vespasian and this one does show the T. When the coin (beneath the notice of those of you who will not touch a Fine) arrived it was housed in a flip from Asta (83,323) in San Marino identifying it as the original Drusus issue. That is a much more embarrassing error to be made by a seller claiming to deserve a high buyer's premium. I do note that I paid a lot more for the coin than it was sold for by Asta but I do not know if Frank made that profit or if it passed through several hands between the two sales. I paid too much but that is the only way we buy things at auction. I like the concept of the later restitution coins and did not have this type either original or restored. Sure, I would rather have a prettier one but this is what it is and was accurately shown in the photo. PIETAS / IMP T CAES DIVI VESP F AVG RESTIT - SC [ATTACH=full]1172329[/ATTACH] The difference of opinion was lot 396, a Sasanian drachm of Peroz. It was listed as a clear mintmark of Gor mint. Frank uses a difference resource for Sasanian ID's than I do and I failed to double check the listing. It is a nice coin and upgrades my previous one that I had identified as AT mint. That means I have another duplicate for disposal. Interestingly Frank graded his coin as Choice AEF while my other one was ex. Triskles (January 2018) as EF. That, folks, is why I spend a lot more on FSR sales than on Triskles. As usual with Frank, this Sasanian came in a hard plastic round. Some Sasanians are thin and could break in the mail. I assume Frank has had a problem with that in the past. Peroz is not from the fragile period but there is nothing wrong with being careful. FSR AEF (my new one) - weaker reverse but better portrait[ATTACH=full]1172334[/ATTACH] Triskles EF (my old one) - You might argue it has less wear but that striking void across the face does not support EF IMHO. Obviously, the reason I won the coin was other bidders were more careful and did not bid on it. I would appreciate it if any of our Sasanian experts disagrees with my feeling the two are the same type/mint or could see any reason to keep both. The old one is not a bad coin but the new one is better. [ATTACH=full]1172331[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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