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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 3292400, member: 91461"]It must've been TENSE. It must've been excruciating listening to a dying man tell them the future of the known world. They must've all eagerly huddled close to hear the answer of answers. </p><p>And the reply, a twistedly ambiguous, possibly sardonic, truth.</p><p>"To the strongest."</p><p>Antigonus, "Son"</p><p>Seleucus, "of"</p><p>Lysimachos, "a"</p><p>Ptolemy, "...God!"</p><p>Perdiccas, with Alexander's signet ring in hand, "Wait! What?!"</p><p>And with that, not only did Alexander answer the question of who he left his kingdom to, he created the diadochi! </p><p>A Greek/Latin term made up in the 19th century to help us identify the generals of Alexander and their families who fought to divvy up his empire.</p><p>So many great men, who helped forge the myth of ATG, now ready to shine... That or just attached their Winnebagos to his shooting star. Much like Alexander was accused of doing off of his own father, Philip II, once the greatest conqueror the European continent had ever known up to that time.</p><p>But we all know that's not fair. We shouldn't judge them this far away from them in time. Should we?</p><p>We should judge them for the great things they accomplished though.</p><p>With that in mind, I'd like to ask you to post your favorite diadochi (or relatives). And, if you would, add in the reason that you like/admire them.</p><p>Or if you just have a SaWeet diadochi coin but you hate the SOB share why?</p><p><br /></p><p>Examples could look like:</p><p><br /></p><p>I hate that traitorous Lysimachos! After Seleucus saved his bronze buns against, and helped kill, Antigonus (sorry [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER], that's the way it went down) he betrays Seleucus and fortifies an alliance with Ptolemy!</p><p>Rapscallion made some gooooood looking coins though here's my best of his:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]870585[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Lysimachos</p><p>Kings of Thrace. Pella. 305-281 BC. Tetradrachm AR</p><p>27mm., 15,95g.</p><p>Head of the deified Alexander the Great to right,</p><p>wearing diadem with fluttering ends and with the horn</p><p>of Ammon around his ear / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ</p><p>ΛΥΣΙΜΑΧΟΥ, Athena, wearing robes and</p><p>helmet, seated to left on throne, holding Nike on her</p><p>right hand and resting her left elbow on large round</p><p>shield adorned with a gorgoneion; to left monogram.</p><p>very fine. Thompson 253; Müller 471.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or:</p><p><br /></p><p>I really dig on Seleucius. Though Ptolemy took the easy task of Egypt and all its riches and people.</p><p>Seleucus took on one of the tried and true time immemorial toughest areas on the planet and carved it into a massive empire for his family for generations! Plus, IMO his coins of The Great One are artistically the most advanced and complex. Sadly, I lack the "Helmeted" Alexander coin of the man. #bucketlister</p><p>Here's my best example of what may be Alexander as Hermes or simply Medusa.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]870595[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Seleukos I Nikator</p><p>312-281 BCE. Æ</p><p>(15mm, 2.48 g,).</p><p>Uncertain mint.</p><p>Winged head of</p><p>Medusa/Alexander? right / Bull</p><p>butting right; controls</p><p>not visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>A few other diadochi of mine:</p><p><br /></p><p>Shouldn't this Gorgoneion be wearing an eyepatch?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]870606[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Antigonos I</p><p>Monophthalmos</p><p>As king, 306/5-301 BCE. Æ</p><p>Unit (14mm, 4.4 g). Salamis</p><p>mint. Struck under</p><p>Demetrios I Poliorketes.</p><p>Macedonian shield, boss</p><p>decorated with facing</p><p>gorgoneion / Macedonian</p><p>helmet; kerykeion and</p><p>monogram to lower left and</p><p>right. Price 3159</p><p><br /></p><p>His innovative scoundrel of a son who's siege engines were so mighty that the Rhodians used the abandoned remnants to build their Colosus:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]870608[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Demetrios Poliorketes</p><p>Æ15. Amphipolis, circa 294-</p><p>288 BC. Macedonian shield</p><p>with monogram in boss / BA-</p><p>ΣΙ, crested Macedonian</p><p>helmet, bunch of grapes in</p><p>left field. Newell, Demetrius</p><p>130. 4.24g, 17mm, 10h</p><p>Former [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER] coin</p><p><br /></p><p>And The grandson who was supposed to be Better than them both combined:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]870609[/ATTACH] </p><p>Macedonian Kingdom.</p><p>AntigonosII Gonatas.</p><p>277/6-239 B.C. Æ (16 mm, 5.07</p><p>g). Uncertain Macedonian mint.</p><p>HeadofHeraklesright,wearing</p><p>lion's skin headdress / ANT</p><p>monogram below, Youth on</p><p>horsebackright,extendingarm;</p><p>in right field, wreath. SNG Alpha</p><p>Bank 993. Nice green patina,</p><p>minor roughness on reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>What about the man who killed Alexander's loved ones after his death, including his son?!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]870610[/ATTACH] </p><p>Kassander</p><p>305-298 BCE AE 20</p><p>Uncertain Macedonian mint.</p><p>laureate head of Apollo right</p><p>ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΚΑΣΣΑΝΔΡΟΥ,</p><p>legend vertically downwards</p><p>to right and left of tripod; to</p><p>left, A (tipped ccw), to right,</p><p>kerykion. SNG Alpha Bank</p><p>895-6; SNG München 1030.</p><p>VF, dark green patina</p><p><br /></p><p>So, who would you like to have seen Alexander leave his realm to?</p><p>Just diadochi it![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 3292400, member: 91461"]It must've been TENSE. It must've been excruciating listening to a dying man tell them the future of the known world. They must've all eagerly huddled close to hear the answer of answers. And the reply, a twistedly ambiguous, possibly sardonic, truth. "To the strongest." Antigonus, "Son" Seleucus, "of" Lysimachos, "a" Ptolemy, "...God!" Perdiccas, with Alexander's signet ring in hand, "Wait! What?!" And with that, not only did Alexander answer the question of who he left his kingdom to, he created the diadochi! A Greek/Latin term made up in the 19th century to help us identify the generals of Alexander and their families who fought to divvy up his empire. So many great men, who helped forge the myth of ATG, now ready to shine... That or just attached their Winnebagos to his shooting star. Much like Alexander was accused of doing off of his own father, Philip II, once the greatest conqueror the European continent had ever known up to that time. But we all know that's not fair. We shouldn't judge them this far away from them in time. Should we? We should judge them for the great things they accomplished though. With that in mind, I'd like to ask you to post your favorite diadochi (or relatives). And, if you would, add in the reason that you like/admire them. Or if you just have a SaWeet diadochi coin but you hate the SOB share why? Examples could look like: I hate that traitorous Lysimachos! After Seleucus saved his bronze buns against, and helped kill, Antigonus (sorry [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER], that's the way it went down) he betrays Seleucus and fortifies an alliance with Ptolemy! Rapscallion made some gooooood looking coins though here's my best of his: [ATTACH=full]870585[/ATTACH] Lysimachos Kings of Thrace. Pella. 305-281 BC. Tetradrachm AR 27mm., 15,95g. Head of the deified Alexander the Great to right, wearing diadem with fluttering ends and with the horn of Ammon around his ear / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΛΥΣΙΜΑΧΟΥ, Athena, wearing robes and helmet, seated to left on throne, holding Nike on her right hand and resting her left elbow on large round shield adorned with a gorgoneion; to left monogram. very fine. Thompson 253; Müller 471. Or: I really dig on Seleucius. Though Ptolemy took the easy task of Egypt and all its riches and people. Seleucus took on one of the tried and true time immemorial toughest areas on the planet and carved it into a massive empire for his family for generations! Plus, IMO his coins of The Great One are artistically the most advanced and complex. Sadly, I lack the "Helmeted" Alexander coin of the man. #bucketlister Here's my best example of what may be Alexander as Hermes or simply Medusa. [ATTACH=full]870595[/ATTACH] Seleukos I Nikator 312-281 BCE. Æ (15mm, 2.48 g,). Uncertain mint. Winged head of Medusa/Alexander? right / Bull butting right; controls not visible. A few other diadochi of mine: Shouldn't this Gorgoneion be wearing an eyepatch? [ATTACH=full]870606[/ATTACH] Antigonos I Monophthalmos As king, 306/5-301 BCE. Æ Unit (14mm, 4.4 g). Salamis mint. Struck under Demetrios I Poliorketes. Macedonian shield, boss decorated with facing gorgoneion / Macedonian helmet; kerykeion and monogram to lower left and right. Price 3159 His innovative scoundrel of a son who's siege engines were so mighty that the Rhodians used the abandoned remnants to build their Colosus: [ATTACH=full]870608[/ATTACH] Demetrios Poliorketes Æ15. Amphipolis, circa 294- 288 BC. Macedonian shield with monogram in boss / BA- ΣΙ, crested Macedonian helmet, bunch of grapes in left field. Newell, Demetrius 130. 4.24g, 17mm, 10h Former [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER] coin And The grandson who was supposed to be Better than them both combined: [ATTACH=full]870609[/ATTACH] Macedonian Kingdom. AntigonosII Gonatas. 277/6-239 B.C. Æ (16 mm, 5.07 g). Uncertain Macedonian mint. HeadofHeraklesright,wearing lion's skin headdress / ANT monogram below, Youth on horsebackright,extendingarm; in right field, wreath. SNG Alpha Bank 993. Nice green patina, minor roughness on reverse. What about the man who killed Alexander's loved ones after his death, including his son?! [ATTACH=full]870610[/ATTACH] Kassander 305-298 BCE AE 20 Uncertain Macedonian mint. laureate head of Apollo right ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΚΑΣΣΑΝΔΡΟΥ, legend vertically downwards to right and left of tripod; to left, A (tipped ccw), to right, kerykion. SNG Alpha Bank 895-6; SNG München 1030. VF, dark green patina So, who would you like to have seen Alexander leave his realm to? Just diadochi it![/QUOTE]
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