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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Johndoe2000$, post: 2717784, member: 82085&quot;]When you use the term &quot;harshly cleaned&quot; instead of just cleaned, or lightly cleaned, being passed now by the TPGS, I find it very disturbing. I understand that they may be a little more lenient towards the grading, but for them to straight grade problem coins is unethical to me. Why do people attempt to resubmit coins, hoping for an upgrade when they know that the new grade is fictitious, unless they are trying to deceive others, (or themselves) into believing that the new grade, or details grade is actually true, and they disgraced the coin originally. It seems to me that one should keep the coin in the original holder, if the grading system was more accurate then. I&#039;m speaking about NGC, or PCGS. Will we one day see a MS70 Morgan, Peace, or a harshly cleaned Trade dollar, being market acceptable ? How far are the grading services willing to go, to keep the money flowing in ???[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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