Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
CoinTalk
>
What's it Worth
>
"Details" graded coins
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Owle, post: 1255228, member: 22004"]It's hard to figure value when dealing with whizzed or damaged coins. The question is always going to be how collectable a coin is? Does the collector want to look at his/her coin, or are they going to see a problem every time they inspect it, and want to move it out at firesale prices?</p><p><br /></p><p>Most details graded type gold is trading at a small percentage over melt value, that is the market reality. If you can get the same coin in a numerical grade holder you always do a lot better.</p><p><br /></p><p>I picked up a $20 Saint at a show recently, a typically nice 1927, but with a small reverse scratch. Does anyone know where the TPGs draw the line on what they will grade in scratched coins and what they will "details" grade?</p><p><br /></p><p>I see that PCGS publishes statistics on their grading: </p><p><br /></p><p>[TABLE]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>Number of Coins GradedLast 30 daysLast 12 months[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]Total Coins Graded[/TD]</p><p>[TD]143,015[/TD]</p><p>[TD]2,137,642[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]Plus(+) Grades[/TD]</p><p>[TD]2,519[/TD]</p><p>[TD]39,181[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 90 - Questionable Authenticity[/TD]</p><p>[TD]505[/TD]</p><p>[TD]5,071[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 91 - Questionable Color[/TD]</p><p>[TD]536[/TD]</p><p>[TD]8,531[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 92 - Cleaning[/TD]</p><p>[TD]4,305[/TD]</p><p>[TD]43,722[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 93 - Planchet Flaw[/TD]</p><p>[TD]48[/TD]</p><p>[TD]494[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 94 - Altered Surfaces[/TD]</p><p>[TD]529[/TD]</p><p>[TD]7,431[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 95 - Scratch[/TD]</p><p>[TD]366[/TD]</p><p>[TD]3,725[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 96 - Refund. No Service[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1,184[/TD]</p><p>[TD]7,998[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 97 - Environmental Damage[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1,068[/TD]</p><p>[TD]12,373[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]CODE 98 - Damage[/TD]</p><p>[TD]505[/TD]</p><p>[TD]2,228[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[TABLE]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>Warranty Claims - Last 30 daysWarranty Claims - Last 12 months[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>NumberValueNumberValue[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD]158[/TD]</p><p>[TD]$25,151.00[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1,125[/TD]</p><p>[TD]$1,093,637.00[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[TABLE]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>Estimated Submission Turnaround Time[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>ServiceU.S. CoinsWorld Coins[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]<b>Express</b> target: 5 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]7 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]10 business days[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]<b>Regular</b> target: 15 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]15 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]33 business days[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: light-blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]<b>Economy</b> target: 20 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]25 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]42 business days[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR="class: blue-bg"]</p><p>[TD="class: left-align"]<b>Modern</b> target: 20 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]20 business days[/TD]</p><p>[TD]25 business days</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[/TABLE][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Owle, post: 1255228, member: 22004"]It's hard to figure value when dealing with whizzed or damaged coins. The question is always going to be how collectable a coin is? Does the collector want to look at his/her coin, or are they going to see a problem every time they inspect it, and want to move it out at firesale prices? Most details graded type gold is trading at a small percentage over melt value, that is the market reality. If you can get the same coin in a numerical grade holder you always do a lot better. I picked up a $20 Saint at a show recently, a typically nice 1927, but with a small reverse scratch. Does anyone know where the TPGs draw the line on what they will grade in scratched coins and what they will "details" grade? I see that PCGS publishes statistics on their grading: [TABLE] [TR] Number of Coins GradedLast 30 daysLast 12 months[/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]Total Coins Graded[/TD] [TD]143,015[/TD] [TD]2,137,642[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]Plus(+) Grades[/TD] [TD]2,519[/TD] [TD]39,181[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 90 - Questionable Authenticity[/TD] [TD]505[/TD] [TD]5,071[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 91 - Questionable Color[/TD] [TD]536[/TD] [TD]8,531[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 92 - Cleaning[/TD] [TD]4,305[/TD] [TD]43,722[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 93 - Planchet Flaw[/TD] [TD]48[/TD] [TD]494[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 94 - Altered Surfaces[/TD] [TD]529[/TD] [TD]7,431[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 95 - Scratch[/TD] [TD]366[/TD] [TD]3,725[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 96 - Refund. No Service[/TD] [TD]1,184[/TD] [TD]7,998[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 97 - Environmental Damage[/TD] [TD]1,068[/TD] [TD]12,373[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"]CODE 98 - Damage[/TD] [TD]505[/TD] [TD]2,228[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] Warranty Claims - Last 30 daysWarranty Claims - Last 12 months[/TR] [TR] NumberValueNumberValue[/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD]158[/TD] [TD]$25,151.00[/TD] [TD]1,125[/TD] [TD]$1,093,637.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] Estimated Submission Turnaround Time[/TR] [TR] ServiceU.S. CoinsWorld Coins[/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"][B]Express[/B] target: 5 business days[/TD] [TD]7 business days[/TD] [TD]10 business days[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"][B]Regular[/B] target: 15 business days[/TD] [TD]15 business days[/TD] [TD]33 business days[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: light-blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"][B]Economy[/B] target: 20 business days[/TD] [TD]25 business days[/TD] [TD]42 business days[/TD] [/TR] [TR="class: blue-bg"] [TD="class: left-align"][B]Modern[/B] target: 20 business days[/TD] [TD]20 business days[/TD] [TD]25 business days [URL]http://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
CoinTalk
>
What's it Worth
>
"Details" graded coins
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...