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<p>[QUOTE="1865King, post: 8287330, member: 103207"]I've been collecting coins since the early 1960's so I've seen a lot of coins and have gone to a lot of shows. There is one thing I know and that is there are a lot of "details" coins sitting in straight graded PCGS & NGC slabs. There are a number of coins that were given details grades but were never messed with. If you want to see what I'm talking about look at any light colored circulated seated dollar. If you see a seated dollar that has been straight graded that is a light even gray color or looks somewhat washed out that coin was likely cleaned or dipped. The same can be said about any mint state seated dollar that is bright white at a minimum the coins were dipped. There is almost no way an early silver coin can remain "white" for 150 years. They had no way to protect their coins back then so over time they would all have toned some would even turn black. So, anyone that claims they don't own or won't buy a details graded coin may already have one in their collection and not even know it. I have seem many statements over the years that admit that most early coins were messed with at some point in the past. I don't know the numbers but for seated dollars that number could be 80 percent have had something done to them. The reason these coins get straight graded is because they are given a pass by the grading services. If they rejected 80% of the seated dollars they would piss off a lot of collectors and dealers so they let a lot slide by.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="1865King, post: 8287330, member: 103207"]I've been collecting coins since the early 1960's so I've seen a lot of coins and have gone to a lot of shows. There is one thing I know and that is there are a lot of "details" coins sitting in straight graded PCGS & NGC slabs. There are a number of coins that were given details grades but were never messed with. If you want to see what I'm talking about look at any light colored circulated seated dollar. If you see a seated dollar that has been straight graded that is a light even gray color or looks somewhat washed out that coin was likely cleaned or dipped. The same can be said about any mint state seated dollar that is bright white at a minimum the coins were dipped. There is almost no way an early silver coin can remain "white" for 150 years. They had no way to protect their coins back then so over time they would all have toned some would even turn black. So, anyone that claims they don't own or won't buy a details graded coin may already have one in their collection and not even know it. I have seem many statements over the years that admit that most early coins were messed with at some point in the past. I don't know the numbers but for seated dollars that number could be 80 percent have had something done to them. The reason these coins get straight graded is because they are given a pass by the grading services. If they rejected 80% of the seated dollars they would piss off a lot of collectors and dealers so they let a lot slide by.[/QUOTE]
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