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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 725486, member: 15309"]Doug,</p><p> </p><p>The elements of market grading are surface preservation, luster, strike, and eye appeal. Nowhere is it listed about die alignment, planchet flaws, or die cracks. If you are going to include planchet flaws in the grading process, it would seem logical that they would fall under the strike category since a strong strike will effectively eliminate them. Since strike is evaluated relative to the date/mm, it seems only reasonable that planchet flaws would be given the same leeway as other strike related issues. For example, planchet flaws would definitely affect the grade of a 1940-D Jefferson Nickel since this date/mm was very well struck. However, the 1952 was victim of a terrible strike and horrible overall quality compared to the 1940-D and the grading scale should be adjusted accordingly. With regards to the coin in question. You state that it does not deserve the assigned grade. I submit that this is one of the finest 1952 Jeffersons I have ever seen despite the planchet flaws. When graded relative to the other extant 1952's, this coin deseves to be at the top. It makes no difference to me whether the grading standards applied caused the top grade to be MS65 or MS67.</p><p> </p><p>If you recall, I supported the position that strike characteristics should not be evaluated differently for different date/mm in a given series. We were discussing Peace Dollars at the time and you were the one who clearly stated that you must use different standards for date/mm within a given series. You cant have it both ways.</p><p> </p><p>The only other issue would be the effect of the planchet flaws/die cracks on the eye appeal of the coin. Personally, I don't find die cracks bothersome at all and actually think they add character to the coin. IMO, they have almost no effect on grading. Planchet flaws are more bothersome in most cases, but then again, so is an incomplete strike. In the end, I think the coin is graded correctly because it was assigned the highest grade for the date/mm, no matter what that numerical grade happens to be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 725486, member: 15309"]Doug, The elements of market grading are surface preservation, luster, strike, and eye appeal. Nowhere is it listed about die alignment, planchet flaws, or die cracks. If you are going to include planchet flaws in the grading process, it would seem logical that they would fall under the strike category since a strong strike will effectively eliminate them. Since strike is evaluated relative to the date/mm, it seems only reasonable that planchet flaws would be given the same leeway as other strike related issues. For example, planchet flaws would definitely affect the grade of a 1940-D Jefferson Nickel since this date/mm was very well struck. However, the 1952 was victim of a terrible strike and horrible overall quality compared to the 1940-D and the grading scale should be adjusted accordingly. With regards to the coin in question. You state that it does not deserve the assigned grade. I submit that this is one of the finest 1952 Jeffersons I have ever seen despite the planchet flaws. When graded relative to the other extant 1952's, this coin deseves to be at the top. It makes no difference to me whether the grading standards applied caused the top grade to be MS65 or MS67. If you recall, I supported the position that strike characteristics should not be evaluated differently for different date/mm in a given series. We were discussing Peace Dollars at the time and you were the one who clearly stated that you must use different standards for date/mm within a given series. You cant have it both ways. The only other issue would be the effect of the planchet flaws/die cracks on the eye appeal of the coin. Personally, I don't find die cracks bothersome at all and actually think they add character to the coin. IMO, they have almost no effect on grading. Planchet flaws are more bothersome in most cases, but then again, so is an incomplete strike. In the end, I think the coin is graded correctly because it was assigned the highest grade for the date/mm, no matter what that numerical grade happens to be.[/QUOTE]
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