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Message:: [QUOTE="Treashunt, post: 649343, member: 6763"]DESIGN HUB DOUBLING Design hub doubling is one of my favorite classifications.  For the reason that I favor it, read on to the end. To continue for now, what is design hub doubling?    Essentially, this doubling occurs when two different deigns on two different working hubs are used to create a die. Remember, a die is made by impressing it with a hub, then heated and re-impressed with the hub once again, to improve the die’s details. Anytime that there is a difference in the hub that is used it will create a difference in the die.     The first example that I’ll show is the 1943/2 Jefferson war nickel. The die was first impressed with a hub bearing a 1942 date. Then, after heating, a 1943 hub as used for the second impression. Whatever the difference from hub one to hub 2 is what will create the difference in the die. In this instance, the difference is in the date.     So, the difference is the 3 vs the 2 in the last digit of the date. Commonly called an overdate, the war nickel is technically a doubled die, obverse. These errors are fairly common during war years. Remember that many skilled workers were call to serve in the armed forces and the mint (like many employers) has to use whatever help was available to them.    Another example is the 1878 (8 over 7) tail feathers reverse. The design difference is the number of tail feathers on the hub. This is another extremely popular variety. One more popular example of design hub doubling is the 1960 small/large date Lincoln cent. This is usually found in proof sets, and is a very popular find especially when cherrypicked. There is one great advantage to studying these three example. Each and every one of them can be cherrypicked. I (personally) have found 1 example of the 1878 8/7 tail feathers Morgan dollar. In addition, to date, I have been able to cherrypick three 1943/2 Jefferson nickels. One was in VG condition, and cost me a massive $.25, yes, twenty five cents. Another was in XF and I got it in a batch of junk war nickels. The last one, currently in an ANACS AU-50 holder, was also a junk silver find, and is valued at an easy $200.     As for the 1878 8/7 feathers Morgan dollar, yes. I have also cherried one of those. Back in 2002 (see not all finds were done long ago in the past), I managed to pick up one for a mere $15, in XF-45 condition. Value today? Look it up.     As for the Lincoln cent, no, I have never cherried one of those.  So, they are still out there waiting for you to beat me to it. Why I favor the design hub doubling: Back around the mid-1970's I found a very strange war nickel.  I kept it very safe and proceed to show it off to quite a number of dealers on Long Island, New York (where I live, naturally). In those days there was a coin shop in nearly every town, and no limit to the number of dealers to speak to about such items. The problem is that no one was interested in errors in those days, not that many dealers care about them today, unless they are showing off something like a 1955 DDO. To make a long story shorter than it can be, I was told by everyone that it wasn’t an over date, since none were listed in the Guide Book of US coins.  And, in those days, if it wasn’t in the Guide Book, well, it just wasn’t anything special. So, I gave up, and, upon returning to college, put it away, along with my collecting days, for a number of years. Returning to collecting in the mid-1980's, I picked up a copy of the Guide book,  and lo and behold, there it was a 1943/2 War nickel overdate listed in the Jefferson nickel section. Someone else got credit for discovering it, Del Romines I believe, and I had (in the interim) lost the war nickel that I had kept for so many years with a big ? On the flip. The attached pictures are of: #1: 1943?2 War nickel and #2: 1878 8/7 feathers reverse.[note: not the strongest variety, but still there.][/QUOTE]

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