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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24802181, member: 26430"]Nice addition! Your references include Dane Kurth's (Helvetica) 2010 book <i>Demos, The Personification of the People</i>, which I have yet to take a look at but would like to. There's another volume I need to look at -- sounds like similar material -- Katharina Martin's 2013 <i>Demos, Boule, Gerousia: Personifikationen städtischer Institutionen auf kaiserzeitlichen Münzen aus Kleinasien</i>.</p><p><br /></p><p>These pseudo-autonomous bronzes from Lydia and Phrygia are interesting, with their various personifications of "the people" and local governmental bodies depicted.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know if I have any Demos types, but a few Senate and Gerousia (a local governing body similar to a Senate, I think?) coins from the same region and general period. </p><p><br /></p><p>Notice that the legends for these three all identify the figure on the obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Most recent addition, a Gerousia AE23:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1587106[/ATTACH] </p><blockquote><p><b>Phrygia, Hierapolis AE</b> (6.63g, 23mm, 7h).</p><p><b>Obv</b>: ΓƐΡΟVϹΙΑ. Laureate-headed, veiled and draped bust of the Gerousia, r.</p><p><b>Rev</b>: ΙƐΡΑΠΟΛƐΙΤΩΝ. Apollo-Tyrimnaios on horseback, r., holding upright double axe.</p><p><b>Ref</b>: Mabbott 1907; Lindgren 969; <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/9789" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/9789" rel="nofollow">RPC IV 9789</a> (25 spec.); L. Weber, NC 1913, 29, XV, no. 6–8; BMC 79–81; Martin, <i>Demos</i>, Hierapolis 9a-b.</p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex Michael Slavin Coll., acq. by him at CICF 1999.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/phrygia-sebaste-ae-vermeule-lockett-strauss-jpg.1570138/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Phrygia, Sebaste AE</b> (27mm, 8.07g), <i>temp</i>. Elagabalus or Severus Alexander. </p><p><b>Obv</b>: ΙƐΡΑ ϹΥΝΚΛΗΤΟϹ. Diademed, draped bust of Senate. </p><p><b>Rev</b>: ϹƐΒΑϹΤΗΝΩΝ. Zeus enthroned holding scepter & patera. </p><p><b>Ref</b>: <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/5681" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/5681" rel="nofollow">RPC VI 5681</a>. </p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex Pierre Strauss (1922-1995) [sold M&M AG 1950]; R.C. Lockett (1873-1950) [Glendining's 23 February 1961, Lot 2922 (part) with tickets]; Cornelius C. Vermeule Collection III (1925-2008), sold for the benefit of the Classical Department of the Boston Museum of Fine Arts [<a href="https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/triton_iii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/triton_iii" rel="nofollow">Triton III</a> Auction (CNG, NAC, Freeman & Sear), 30 November 1999 (lot 1668 part)]</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/lindgren-955-phrygia-grimenothyrai-png.1570139/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><blockquote><p><b>Phrygia, Grimenothyrae AE</b> (23.5mm, 7.36g), Magistrate Tullius, <i>temp.</i> Trajan.</p><p><b>Obv</b>: ΙΕΡΑ CΥΝΚΛΗΤΟC. Draped bust of Senate, right.</p><p><b>Rev</b>: Ε Λ ΤΥΛΛΙ ΓΡΙΜΕΝΟΘΥΡ. Men standing left holding pinecone & spear. </p><p><b>Ref/Prov</b>: von Aulock, <i>Phrygiens </i>II 340 = Lindgren & Kovacs 955 = <a href="https://asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=364&pid=3158" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=364&pid=3158" rel="nofollow">AsiaMinorCoins 3158</a> = <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/2482" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/2482" rel="nofollow">RPC III 2482 Ex. 17</a> = this coin; Ex G. Drewry (1928- ), M.B. Burstein, H.C. Lindgren (1914-2005) Collections.</p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24802181, member: 26430"]Nice addition! Your references include Dane Kurth's (Helvetica) 2010 book [I]Demos, The Personification of the People[/I], which I have yet to take a look at but would like to. There's another volume I need to look at -- sounds like similar material -- Katharina Martin's 2013 [I]Demos, Boule, Gerousia: Personifikationen städtischer Institutionen auf kaiserzeitlichen Münzen aus Kleinasien[/I]. These pseudo-autonomous bronzes from Lydia and Phrygia are interesting, with their various personifications of "the people" and local governmental bodies depicted. I don't know if I have any Demos types, but a few Senate and Gerousia (a local governing body similar to a Senate, I think?) coins from the same region and general period. Notice that the legends for these three all identify the figure on the obverse. Most recent addition, a Gerousia AE23: [ATTACH=full]1587106[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B]Phrygia, Hierapolis AE[/B] (6.63g, 23mm, 7h). [B]Obv[/B]: ΓƐΡΟVϹΙΑ. Laureate-headed, veiled and draped bust of the Gerousia, r. [B]Rev[/B]: ΙƐΡΑΠΟΛƐΙΤΩΝ. Apollo-Tyrimnaios on horseback, r., holding upright double axe. [B]Ref[/B]: Mabbott 1907; Lindgren 969; [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/9789']RPC IV 9789[/URL] (25 spec.); L. Weber, NC 1913, 29, XV, no. 6–8; BMC 79–81; Martin, [I]Demos[/I], Hierapolis 9a-b. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex Michael Slavin Coll., acq. by him at CICF 1999.[/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/phrygia-sebaste-ae-vermeule-lockett-strauss-jpg.1570138/[/IMG] [INDENT][B]Phrygia, Sebaste AE[/B] (27mm, 8.07g), [I]temp[/I]. Elagabalus or Severus Alexander. [B]Obv[/B]: ΙƐΡΑ ϹΥΝΚΛΗΤΟϹ. Diademed, draped bust of Senate. [B]Rev[/B]: ϹƐΒΑϹΤΗΝΩΝ. Zeus enthroned holding scepter & patera. [B]Ref[/B]: [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/5681']RPC VI 5681[/URL]. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex Pierre Strauss (1922-1995) [sold M&M AG 1950]; R.C. Lockett (1873-1950) [Glendining's 23 February 1961, Lot 2922 (part) with tickets]; Cornelius C. Vermeule Collection III (1925-2008), sold for the benefit of the Classical Department of the Boston Museum of Fine Arts [[URL='https://issuu.com/cngcoins/docs/triton_iii']Triton III[/URL] Auction (CNG, NAC, Freeman & Sear), 30 November 1999 (lot 1668 part)][/INDENT] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/lindgren-955-phrygia-grimenothyrai-png.1570139/[/IMG] [INDENT][B]Phrygia, Grimenothyrae AE[/B] (23.5mm, 7.36g), Magistrate Tullius, [I]temp.[/I] Trajan. [B]Obv[/B]: ΙΕΡΑ CΥΝΚΛΗΤΟC. Draped bust of Senate, right. [B]Rev[/B]: Ε Λ ΤΥΛΛΙ ΓΡΙΜΕΝΟΘΥΡ. Men standing left holding pinecone & spear. [B]Ref/Prov[/B]: von Aulock, [I]Phrygiens [/I]II 340 = Lindgren & Kovacs 955 = [URL='https://asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=364&pid=3158']AsiaMinorCoins 3158[/URL] = [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/2482']RPC III 2482 Ex. 17[/URL] = this coin; Ex G. Drewry (1928- ), M.B. Burstein, H.C. Lindgren (1914-2005) Collections.[/INDENT][/QUOTE]
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