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<p>[QUOTE="Andy, post: 30304, member: 645"]"What would have happened to the Dutch West India Company's "coins" if the Netherlands had been finally re-taken by the Spanish crown or their Austrian cousins?" Mike</p><p><br /></p><p>Well in North America the Dutch fought the Native Americans, the Swedes in Delaware which in part was in effect New Sweden then, and the British, well kinda of anyway. I think one cannon ball won New Amsterdam and henceforth New Netherlands for the British. This was all proxy war, except for that British cannon ball, that used corporations as fronts to avoid as much as possible direct warfare that could and did carry over into Europe and visa versa. Every coin that was minted in the new world or for the new world was de facto a coin that represented a European nation's power over that area and therefore had the status of that nation. After all the European rulers sent out explores to claim every bit of land that they saw for the country that sponsered them and then those european rulers set up de facto extensions in the new world. Just look at the names: New Netherlands, New Sweden, and New Spain. </p><p>Now for the Massachusetts Bay Colony. They were granted a Charter by King Charles I and a land grant by "The Council of New England". Now The Bay Colony lost their royal charter in 1684 and had a Royal Govenor installed around 1688 and Great Britian made New England officially part of the Empire.</p><p>So a coin can not stand as a coin unless a nation or the power of a nation stands behind it. As for Disney Dollars, try cashing them in at Sea World. </p><p>But of course you disagree with me, which is fine and perhaps the way it should be. I just hope others are reading our discourse and perhaps could share their thoughts with us as well.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andy, post: 30304, member: 645"]"What would have happened to the Dutch West India Company's "coins" if the Netherlands had been finally re-taken by the Spanish crown or their Austrian cousins?" Mike Well in North America the Dutch fought the Native Americans, the Swedes in Delaware which in part was in effect New Sweden then, and the British, well kinda of anyway. I think one cannon ball won New Amsterdam and henceforth New Netherlands for the British. This was all proxy war, except for that British cannon ball, that used corporations as fronts to avoid as much as possible direct warfare that could and did carry over into Europe and visa versa. Every coin that was minted in the new world or for the new world was de facto a coin that represented a European nation's power over that area and therefore had the status of that nation. After all the European rulers sent out explores to claim every bit of land that they saw for the country that sponsered them and then those european rulers set up de facto extensions in the new world. Just look at the names: New Netherlands, New Sweden, and New Spain. Now for the Massachusetts Bay Colony. They were granted a Charter by King Charles I and a land grant by "The Council of New England". Now The Bay Colony lost their royal charter in 1684 and had a Royal Govenor installed around 1688 and Great Britian made New England officially part of the Empire. So a coin can not stand as a coin unless a nation or the power of a nation stands behind it. As for Disney Dollars, try cashing them in at Sea World. But of course you disagree with me, which is fine and perhaps the way it should be. I just hope others are reading our discourse and perhaps could share their thoughts with us as well.[/QUOTE]
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