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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 30196, member: 57463"]<b>My point has always been that to be workable the definition of "coin" must be <u>taxonomic</u>. The physical attributes of the object are what <u>integrates</u> it into a class, and <u>differentiates</u> it from other elements belonging to the same set. </b> </p><p><br /></p><p>How do we classify a "coin" struck by a Roman general who never received approval by the Senate before being defeated by a rival? The general was only that, just a soldier with a lot of temporary comrades, and not a "government." Yet, his coins are still coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Are the Depression-era tax tokens of state governments "coins?" Mostly, we think not. We call them "tokens" because they stood for "real" money. Yet, they were issued by governments. Furthermore, if they are only "tokens" then, so, too are most bronze and even many silver coins. Of the multi-millions of U.S. silver dollars struck, only a few early issues actually contained a dollar's worth of silver. Most silver coins were only "tokens" for gold. (See Neil Carrothers' <i>Fractional Money</i> for a complete historical analysis of the problem and the solutions attempted.) So, if a silver 3-cent piece is not a "coin" then what is it? Again, the strongest inquiry is one along taxomonic lines.</p><p><br /></p><p>A "dictionary definition" can never satisfy an expert. (In fact, the first dictionaries only listed the "hard" words, not the easy ones. For instance, there might be no definition for "shoe" but one for "prevaricate.") Speaking of "shoe" you can look that up in a dictionary and run right into a brick wall when trying to decide how to classify a low boot or a sandal with a full upper. Such differences matter a great deal to fashion designers and also to transportation managers in logistics who have to file tariffs with government authorities.</p><p>So, too, with "coins."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 30196, member: 57463"][B]My point has always been that to be workable the definition of "coin" must be [U]taxonomic[/U]. The physical attributes of the object are what [U]integrates[/U] it into a class, and [U]differentiates[/U] it from other elements belonging to the same set. [/B] How do we classify a "coin" struck by a Roman general who never received approval by the Senate before being defeated by a rival? The general was only that, just a soldier with a lot of temporary comrades, and not a "government." Yet, his coins are still coins. Are the Depression-era tax tokens of state governments "coins?" Mostly, we think not. We call them "tokens" because they stood for "real" money. Yet, they were issued by governments. Furthermore, if they are only "tokens" then, so, too are most bronze and even many silver coins. Of the multi-millions of U.S. silver dollars struck, only a few early issues actually contained a dollar's worth of silver. Most silver coins were only "tokens" for gold. (See Neil Carrothers' [I]Fractional Money[/I] for a complete historical analysis of the problem and the solutions attempted.) So, if a silver 3-cent piece is not a "coin" then what is it? Again, the strongest inquiry is one along taxomonic lines. A "dictionary definition" can never satisfy an expert. (In fact, the first dictionaries only listed the "hard" words, not the easy ones. For instance, there might be no definition for "shoe" but one for "prevaricate.") Speaking of "shoe" you can look that up in a dictionary and run right into a brick wall when trying to decide how to classify a low boot or a sandal with a full upper. Such differences matter a great deal to fashion designers and also to transportation managers in logistics who have to file tariffs with government authorities. So, too, with "coins."[/QUOTE]
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