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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2826145, member: 77413"]Thank you for the pictures. It's great that reasonable people might disagree even with these. The discussion may be that much more educational.</p><p><br /></p><p>I, for example, might have expected that the cotton bolls would also be marked or disturbed at the same time as the ear, if this is wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>If due to strike, I can envision the surface of the planchet being subjected to metal flow as it is forced into each recess of the die. Except, not at the ear, say, where the metal does not quite fill that cavity. Would that area be without luster because it was never subjected to the full forces and die contact that produced it?</p><p><br /></p><p>Kurt, if 3-D would help, here is a small simulation of it. I don't have an exact match for the Morgan pictures above, but I do have this nickel that is somewhat ambiguous, and never graded. Here we can see a similar flatness on the hair just above the braid. It is flat, and there are miniscule marks in it. Some folks have explained that the planchets go through a drying tumbler and the planchet surface is marked before striking. A weak strike would not erase those marks fully.</p><p><br /></p><p>As the coin moves the light plays off of that surface just like the others. The same applies to the weak rim at 1:00 and the tops of LIBERTY. Is this unbroken luster and MS, or do people think this is AU?</p><p><br /></p><p>My questions and observations are made with humility. I really want to learn because this is an area that confounds me a bit. Virtually everything I have is ungraded so I don't have the crutch of looking at a label.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]664970[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2826145, member: 77413"]Thank you for the pictures. It's great that reasonable people might disagree even with these. The discussion may be that much more educational. I, for example, might have expected that the cotton bolls would also be marked or disturbed at the same time as the ear, if this is wear. If due to strike, I can envision the surface of the planchet being subjected to metal flow as it is forced into each recess of the die. Except, not at the ear, say, where the metal does not quite fill that cavity. Would that area be without luster because it was never subjected to the full forces and die contact that produced it? Kurt, if 3-D would help, here is a small simulation of it. I don't have an exact match for the Morgan pictures above, but I do have this nickel that is somewhat ambiguous, and never graded. Here we can see a similar flatness on the hair just above the braid. It is flat, and there are miniscule marks in it. Some folks have explained that the planchets go through a drying tumbler and the planchet surface is marked before striking. A weak strike would not erase those marks fully. As the coin moves the light plays off of that surface just like the others. The same applies to the weak rim at 1:00 and the tops of LIBERTY. Is this unbroken luster and MS, or do people think this is AU? My questions and observations are made with humility. I really want to learn because this is an area that confounds me a bit. Virtually everything I have is ungraded so I don't have the crutch of looking at a label. [ATTACH=full]664970[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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