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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2018503, member: 112"]Can you not read Paul ? In particular the sentence I underlined below ?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah they made wholesale changes, they invented an entirely new system. Kinda hard to do that without making changes. And every major name in numismatics helped develop the ANA grading standards, they were all a part of it. And they did it BEFORE PCGS even existed, not after. The only thing that happened after PCGS opened was getting the book published. And PCGS didn't publish their book till many years later. And some say that was because they didn't want the public to know that they were not following the standards established by the ANA.</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh, and those wholesale changes they made, prior to those changes there were only 3 MS grades - 60, 65, and 70. After those changes we have what we have today. And just as an example, coins that were previously graded 65, became a 63 literally over night. And the grading criteria for many of the circulated grades were tightened up.</p><p><br /></p><p>And the TPGs made minor changes Paul, really ? Well I suppose, if you want to call loosening your grading standards across the board is what you want to call minor.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You know as well as I do that NGC has never, ever, published any written grading standards. You also know as well as I do that every person who knows coins will tell you that NGC and PCGS do not follow the same grading standards. So why would you even bother asking a question like that ?</p><p><br /></p><p>You want examples, look at the coins because that is all anyone can do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2018503, member: 112"]Can you not read Paul ? In particular the sentence I underlined below ? Yeah they made wholesale changes, they invented an entirely new system. Kinda hard to do that without making changes. And every major name in numismatics helped develop the ANA grading standards, they were all a part of it. And they did it BEFORE PCGS even existed, not after. The only thing that happened after PCGS opened was getting the book published. And PCGS didn't publish their book till many years later. And some say that was because they didn't want the public to know that they were not following the standards established by the ANA. Oh, and those wholesale changes they made, prior to those changes there were only 3 MS grades - 60, 65, and 70. After those changes we have what we have today. And just as an example, coins that were previously graded 65, became a 63 literally over night. And the grading criteria for many of the circulated grades were tightened up. And the TPGs made minor changes Paul, really ? Well I suppose, if you want to call loosening your grading standards across the board is what you want to call minor. You know as well as I do that NGC has never, ever, published any written grading standards. You also know as well as I do that every person who knows coins will tell you that NGC and PCGS do not follow the same grading standards. So why would you even bother asking a question like that ? You want examples, look at the coins because that is all anyone can do.[/QUOTE]
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