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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 908143, member: 112"]My opinion is that damage is anything that happens to a coin post strike, not post mint because damages happens at the mint as well, that is outside the normal wear a coin experiences. </p><p><br /></p><p>A scratch for example is damage, unless it is very minor. A reed mark, or any contact mark, if severe enough so that metal is actually displaced, is damage. A rim ding, again if severe enough is damage. A dent, that affects more than just the edge reeding and sometimes even that, or one that is in the surface of the coin, is damage. Any deep gouge or cut in the coin is damage. Corrosion, of any type, is damage. If the coin is bent or even slightly cupped, that is damage. A jewelry mount is damage. A coin that is subjected to heat is damaged. A stain is damage. Planchet flaws if severe enough are damage. Over-dipping is damage. I'm sure there are a few more that I have missed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now many of these things are subjective and may or may not be damage depending on severity. But the degree of severity changes with the size, and the metal, of the coin in question. So to a large degree determining when it is damage depends on experience. </p><p><br /></p><p>And that is why some will say this is not damage when somebody else will say that it is. That is when you look to other examples that have been marked as damaged by some authority, be that a TPG or an individual expert, for a decision. And when two authorities contradict each other, well then you have to decide for yourself. But even authorities (TPGs) make mistake. And if the evidence one way or the other preponderously outweighs one authority - then it is pretty safe that one outweighed made the mistake.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now about things that are not damage - whizzing is not damage. That may sound odd but whizzing is in a category all its own. Toning is not damage, unless it is permitted to progress to the point that it becomes corrosion. Harsh/improper cleaning is not damage, again it is in a category of its own. Alteration, of the devices or the surfaces is not damage, it too is a category of its own. Artificial toning, unless caused by heat, is not damage. Die chips and die cracks are not damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>So start pickin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 908143, member: 112"]My opinion is that damage is anything that happens to a coin post strike, not post mint because damages happens at the mint as well, that is outside the normal wear a coin experiences. A scratch for example is damage, unless it is very minor. A reed mark, or any contact mark, if severe enough so that metal is actually displaced, is damage. A rim ding, again if severe enough is damage. A dent, that affects more than just the edge reeding and sometimes even that, or one that is in the surface of the coin, is damage. Any deep gouge or cut in the coin is damage. Corrosion, of any type, is damage. If the coin is bent or even slightly cupped, that is damage. A jewelry mount is damage. A coin that is subjected to heat is damaged. A stain is damage. Planchet flaws if severe enough are damage. Over-dipping is damage. I'm sure there are a few more that I have missed. Now many of these things are subjective and may or may not be damage depending on severity. But the degree of severity changes with the size, and the metal, of the coin in question. So to a large degree determining when it is damage depends on experience. And that is why some will say this is not damage when somebody else will say that it is. That is when you look to other examples that have been marked as damaged by some authority, be that a TPG or an individual expert, for a decision. And when two authorities contradict each other, well then you have to decide for yourself. But even authorities (TPGs) make mistake. And if the evidence one way or the other preponderously outweighs one authority - then it is pretty safe that one outweighed made the mistake. Now about things that are not damage - whizzing is not damage. That may sound odd but whizzing is in a category all its own. Toning is not damage, unless it is permitted to progress to the point that it becomes corrosion. Harsh/improper cleaning is not damage, again it is in a category of its own. Alteration, of the devices or the surfaces is not damage, it too is a category of its own. Artificial toning, unless caused by heat, is not damage. Die chips and die cracks are not damage. So start pickin ;)[/QUOTE]
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