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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2785611, member: 24314"]imrich, posted: "There is an appreciable difference between generating further damage to a coin covered in residue, and removing the residue to view underlying damage, without further evidence of damage."</p><p><br /></p><p>AFAIK, TPGS's differentiate between a "residue" which can easily be removed in most cases no matter what it is; and "black corrosion" that has destroyed a coin's surface. There are ways to make corroded coins more attractive. Unfortunately, much of the time these efforts can be detected by another conservation specialist. Several of the coins in your test appear to be corroded to my "untrained" eye. They will require several steps of preparation before you even get near the final dip. </p><p><br /></p><p>"A coin having terminal underlying damage can be aesthetically improved, but damage is irreversible, generating an assumption of "cleaning" rather than "conservation". The difference is whether the "patient" has improved health (i.e. further damage or not). The commercial "conservators" only improve the appearance, not reverse the condition, but we don't label their efforts as cleaning, and issue grades to their efforts."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000"><b>Oh, yes we do </b>if their work can be detected (not market acceptable).</span></p><p><br /></p><p>"As I stated earlier in this thread, I've several expensive Gold coins at a TPG, being notified that residue removal is suggested to facilitate a grade. It doesn't require an I.Q. test to answer the query. We will see the possible difference in the coins re-grade."</p><p><br /></p><p>You can be 95% sure if they ask to "fix" your coin it will straight grade...possibly even upgrade. No news here. While I highly recommend NCS (if that is the place) AFAIK, other TPGS's do this work also. One of them does not charge for the service!</p><p><br /></p><p>imrich, posted: "You generally will not acquire a grade if politically unattended damage is viewed by the TPG."</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i><span style="color: #0000b3">ZOOM!</span></i></b> That's the sound of this post going right over my <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />head. I assure you I can read <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> yet have not idea on this one.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shame:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2785611, member: 24314"]imrich, posted: "There is an appreciable difference between generating further damage to a coin covered in residue, and removing the residue to view underlying damage, without further evidence of damage." AFAIK, TPGS's differentiate between a "residue" which can easily be removed in most cases no matter what it is; and "black corrosion" that has destroyed a coin's surface. There are ways to make corroded coins more attractive. Unfortunately, much of the time these efforts can be detected by another conservation specialist. Several of the coins in your test appear to be corroded to my "untrained" eye. They will require several steps of preparation before you even get near the final dip. "A coin having terminal underlying damage can be aesthetically improved, but damage is irreversible, generating an assumption of "cleaning" rather than "conservation". The difference is whether the "patient" has improved health (i.e. further damage or not). The commercial "conservators" only improve the appearance, not reverse the condition, but we don't label their efforts as cleaning, and issue grades to their efforts." [COLOR=#b30000][B]Oh, yes we do [/B]if their work can be detected (not market acceptable).[/COLOR] "As I stated earlier in this thread, I've several expensive Gold coins at a TPG, being notified that residue removal is suggested to facilitate a grade. It doesn't require an I.Q. test to answer the query. We will see the possible difference in the coins re-grade." You can be 95% sure if they ask to "fix" your coin it will straight grade...possibly even upgrade. No news here. While I highly recommend NCS (if that is the place) AFAIK, other TPGS's do this work also. One of them does not charge for the service! imrich, posted: "You generally will not acquire a grade if politically unattended damage is viewed by the TPG." [B][I][COLOR=#0000b3]ZOOM![/COLOR][/I][/B] That's the sound of this post going right over my :bucktooth:head. I assure you I can read :bookworm: yet have not idea on this one.:facepalm: :shame:[/QUOTE]
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