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Message:: [QUOTE="imrich, post: 2785285, member: 22331"]It appears that you and Kurt are from the same school! Kurt espousing: NEVER, EVER (i.e. only absolutes in life generally are Death and Taxes), and you stating: "I can see wiping it"   WOW! The coins to be cleaned are 4 raw mint state "Mercury dimes" with varying degree of natural environmental damage from a ~MS64 FB toned condition, through black streaking  to a ~MS61 with a black splotch. The devices and fields are generally pristine without rub or dings, hand selected so that cleaning effects will be evident, although the coins will be imaged during various processes/stages. The process will be private as part of the learning process agreement. We don't want to offend the Numismatic Expert/Guru or his minions, but will transmit proprietary information to "open-minded" individuals of a progressive new school of thought. Although several have grasped a portion of my post, all failed to read/comprehend my summary, thus: "The recommendation to not clean coins is believed to be very good advice"Educational "discussions" with individuals of such limited vision is believed definitely a futile exercise to which one of normal intelligence should avoid. JMHO[/QUOTE]