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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2781793, member: 24314"]imrich, posted: "In my long term learning process where I've ruined some expensive coins, I've been amazed at how sensitive the surface of a "90%" Silver or Gold coin is to abrasion. I've seen the visual damage that a "Q-tip" cotton swab can do when lightly applying same to the surface of a coin in "cleaning" fluid."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)">100% true! Watch out</span>.</p><p><br /></p><p>imrich, continued: "I personally would not recommend using anything other than <b>lubricated fingers</b> on a precious coin."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)"><b>Not</b> advisable. Don't take my word for this as the poster claims success. Try it out for yourself.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>"Never anything intended/designed for "scrubbing". Cleaning coins is a difficult process, where I've learned that after a proper soaking, only a spray of proper filtered "solvent" is recommended for application under pressure through a minute orifice. Ultrasonic cleaning processes can have wonderful non-damaging results when using proper equipment/technique.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)">From what I've seen, the proper use of an ultrasonic cleaner + chemicals is often used.</span> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>V. Kurt Bellman, asks: So why doesn't the hobby use the term "mechanically cleaned" or "abrasively cleaned?</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)">Possibly to save space on the label? Many cleanings are done with the abrasive use of chemicals! </span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Johndoe2000$, asked: "Should a cleaning scale be developed?"</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)"><i><b>An adjectival scale to describe cleaning has existed for over forty years in the old "Technical Grading System."</b></i> Unfortunately, the lines between each part of the scale have never (IMO they can never) been fixed as there are too many variables so it is subjective.<b><span style="color: #ff8000">***</span></b> Besides, Technical Grading is only a classroom exercise with no association to the coin market. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)"><b><span style="color: #ff8000">***</span></b>Example: When does a lightly hairlined coin due to cleaning become a harshly hairlined coin. When does the "mechanical cleaning" become buffing or polishing? The TPGS have "solved" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> this problem by calling almost everything <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> they <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> see - <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">Cleaned</span></b>. IMO, that's too <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> bad. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(89, 0, 179)">For now, collectors need to develop their own "scale."</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2781793, member: 24314"]imrich, posted: "In my long term learning process where I've ruined some expensive coins, I've been amazed at how sensitive the surface of a "90%" Silver or Gold coin is to abrasion. I've seen the visual damage that a "Q-tip" cotton swab can do when lightly applying same to the surface of a coin in "cleaning" fluid." [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)]100% true! Watch out[/COLOR]. imrich, continued: "I personally would not recommend using anything other than [B]lubricated fingers[/B] on a precious coin." [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)][B]Not[/B] advisable. Don't take my word for this as the poster claims success. Try it out for yourself.[/COLOR] "Never anything intended/designed for "scrubbing". Cleaning coins is a difficult process, where I've learned that after a proper soaking, only a spray of proper filtered "solvent" is recommended for application under pressure through a minute orifice. Ultrasonic cleaning processes can have wonderful non-damaging results when using proper equipment/technique. [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)]From what I've seen, the proper use of an ultrasonic cleaner + chemicals is often used.[/COLOR] V. Kurt Bellman, asks: So why doesn't the hobby use the term "mechanically cleaned" or "abrasively cleaned? [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)]Possibly to save space on the label? Many cleanings are done with the abrasive use of chemicals! [/COLOR] :jawdrop::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: Johndoe2000$, asked: "Should a cleaning scale be developed?" [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)][I][B]An adjectival scale to describe cleaning has existed for over forty years in the old "Technical Grading System."[/B][/I] Unfortunately, the lines between each part of the scale have never (IMO they can never) been fixed as there are too many variables so it is subjective.[B][COLOR=#ff8000]***[/COLOR][/B] Besides, Technical Grading is only a classroom exercise with no association to the coin market. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)] [B][COLOR=#ff8000]***[/COLOR][/B]Example: When does a lightly hairlined coin due to cleaning become a harshly hairlined coin. When does the "mechanical cleaning" become buffing or polishing? The TPGS have "solved" o_O :hilarious::hilarious: this problem by calling almost everything :confused: they :bucktooth: see - [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]Cleaned[/COLOR][/B]. IMO, that's too :wacky: bad. :( [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(89, 0, 179)] For now, collectors need to develop their own "scale."[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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