Define "Cleaning."

Alright, that reply scares me even more.

 

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That's my GPA, not the grade from this class.

 

Please explain. It sounds fascinating. We become more ordered when we're clean?

 

Are you REALLY suggesting you'd prefer a slow agonizing ugly inevitable death to instant annihilation? If so, I can't even imagine a thought process like yours.

 

Absolutely! In fact, this line is dragged here from a website explaining entropy: "Most understand entropy as a measure of molecular disorder within a macroscopic system."

What is a molecular disorder within a macroscopic system? Dirt, contamination, random flotsam and jetsam. The removal of it is "cleaning". Hence, cleaning is the attempt to locally reverse entropy. Get that booger off the field on that nice frosty cameo proof Franklin and get it somewhere else!

Even microscopic organisms "clean", using cilia or other structures to separate other particles with which they come into contact into categories like "food" or "contaminants". All life is an attempt to locally reduce entropy in its environment and export the relentlessly increasing entropy outside its environmental experience. THAT is the true "circle of life", not a baboon holding up a lion cub on Pride Rock.

QED

By the way, before you ask, yes, this IS the kind of stuff I spend my spare time thinking about, not thinking about how I can flip a coin I got cheap at an auction for a quick buck.

 

Please start your own thread. Thanks!

 

What I pay my maid to do once a month

 

You're right, this thread had gotten off topic. Sorry.
But Kurt, this is "C"oin Talk, not "C"ourtroom talk, please learn the difference.

 

I literally have absolutely no idea what you mean by that. This is the normal way I speak every day. I worship NOT the "blue collar", nor the neck it surrounds.

And yes, I do read Ivy League school Law Review articles for fun. I've even written one or two, and I'm not even a lawyer.

 

Start a thread.

 

You're not by any means implying that this is what I do with my spare time, are you?

 

Oh my no, not you personally, but I have heard you and Matt on a podcast wax poetic about the concept being practiced by others. In addition, the practioners of the flippers art are thick as flies on this board.

 

Define "Cleaning."

 

I did at post #14 and I still stand behind it. I further expanded on it at post #45. I have seen nothing else in this thread that meaningfully adds to that. It meets the criteria. It's accurate, and so universal that it isn't even limited to human activity. It's not the most popular answer, because mine never are. I submit it remains the most correct answer.

I don't give a rodent's rump about popularity. "Correctness ain't up for a vote."

 

I agree with this definition and a few others, however, as it pertains to the coin collecting hobby or profession...it also includes the use of any chemicals that could alter the finish. I agree we ALL possibly "clean or polish" prior to soring but, I ONLY use a terry-cloth towel and do not use chemicals. In some cases I have used "toothpaste" but, I have researched and found many other collectors do the same and ONLY for coins NEVER to be sold. I hope this clears any confusion.

 

You must have read that as" Define Cleaning again Kurt, and defend your definition.
You are the smartest guy in the room, when you're alone.
Your "Best answer", is just that, "YOUR" best answer. Not mine for sure.

 

Go ahead, ask me if I care even the tinyest eensie weensie bit. Go on.

 

The terry-cloth towel and the toothpaste are both HORRIBLE ideas. Better to use chemicals, frankly.

 

Re: "Most understand entropy as a measure of molecular disorder within a macroscopic system."

Apparently, "most" people thinking about coins don't "understand" "entropy", "molecular", "disorder", "macroscopic", or "system". Obviously, most of their intellectual skills are limited to "ooh, shiny".

Mike, THAT is why I belong to the Chicago Coin Club. I get intellectual stimulation there. It's the only forum I've seen where coins are involved where buying and/or selling is NEVER done or even talked about. It's kind of the anti-CoinTalk.

If I want popularity contests or lowbrow discussions, I can just turn on the House floor feed instead.

 

This is one of those exercises where the more people think the more convoluted the answers become trying to be simple yet thorough.

My simplest definition of cleaning would be: the process of brightening a coin that results in a details grade