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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 3069419, member: 22331"]You are stating what is being observed/declared, and making my case that the TPG are subjectively declaring previously TPG graded coins "CLEANED". The coins I've discussed were removed from slabs, sent to a competitive TPG, returned as "CLEANED". Resubmitted back to original TPG, again receiving a grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've had many coins "cross-slabbed", and only once have I received a MS DETAILS "HARSHLY CLEANED" Double Eagle returned that had been previously "slabbed" as 1906 MS62 PL $20 with beautiful uniform luster, virtually without without bag marks or bag rub.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had seen another rare date Double Eagle slabbed AU DETAILS HARSHLY CLEANED, that was sold by Heritage as AU5? grade. I posted it in a thread discussing the value of TPG "CLEANED" declared coins where I stated the coin would be sold, as it was for more than twice melt value.</p><p><br /></p><p>We're in agreement that virtually all PM "antiquated" coins have been "CLEANED" at some time. One would expect on a used item being sold, a brief statement as to why/evidence of the declaration. If damage is evident, possibly the declaration is improper.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've several perfectly acceptable vehicles that were purchased as "flood" and "hail" damaged. "Altered-fields" or "hair-lines" damage, etc., may be acceptable with a proper grade, as done by SEGS and others. The disparity may need to be altered/adjudicated as some very expensive damages are being declared. The unacceptable scratch declaration, as I recall in the PCI? litigation, by a firm known for scratch? acceptance, was believed quite expensive.</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 3069419, member: 22331"]You are stating what is being observed/declared, and making my case that the TPG are subjectively declaring previously TPG graded coins "CLEANED". The coins I've discussed were removed from slabs, sent to a competitive TPG, returned as "CLEANED". Resubmitted back to original TPG, again receiving a grade. I've had many coins "cross-slabbed", and only once have I received a MS DETAILS "HARSHLY CLEANED" Double Eagle returned that had been previously "slabbed" as 1906 MS62 PL $20 with beautiful uniform luster, virtually without without bag marks or bag rub. I had seen another rare date Double Eagle slabbed AU DETAILS HARSHLY CLEANED, that was sold by Heritage as AU5? grade. I posted it in a thread discussing the value of TPG "CLEANED" declared coins where I stated the coin would be sold, as it was for more than twice melt value. We're in agreement that virtually all PM "antiquated" coins have been "CLEANED" at some time. One would expect on a used item being sold, a brief statement as to why/evidence of the declaration. If damage is evident, possibly the declaration is improper. I've several perfectly acceptable vehicles that were purchased as "flood" and "hail" damaged. "Altered-fields" or "hair-lines" damage, etc., may be acceptable with a proper grade, as done by SEGS and others. The disparity may need to be altered/adjudicated as some very expensive damages are being declared. The unacceptable scratch declaration, as I recall in the PCI? litigation, by a firm known for scratch? acceptance, was believed quite expensive. JMHO[/QUOTE]
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