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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2670999, member: 112"]Just because one does not understand how such wear could occur, does not mean that such wear does indeed occur.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You apparently don't realize it but you prove my point for me with those comments.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll start with these. They have no wear in the area in question. (and if anyone cannot see the posted pics well enough then go to the link and blow them up so you can.)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-87-90-ngc-census-61-76-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8551.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-87-90-ngc-census-61-76-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8551.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-87-90-ngc-census-61-76-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8551.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F2%2F2%2F0%2F11220541%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-cac-pcgs-population-85-84-ngc-census-61-75-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/1204-8555.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-cac-pcgs-population-85-84-ngc-census-61-75-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/1204-8555.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-cac-pcgs-population-85-84-ngc-census-61-75-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/1204-8555.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F2%2F2%2F0%2F11220541%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Then you have the where such wear is just beginning - in the exact same area.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-fs-301-r3-ms65-pcgs-cac/a/1222-3559.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-fs-301-r3-ms65-pcgs-cac/a/1222-3559.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-fs-301-r3-ms65-pcgs-cac/a/1222-3559.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F8%2F0%2F12780340%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-cac-fs-301/a/1188-3286.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-cac-fs-301/a/1188-3286.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-cac-fs-301/a/1188-3286.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F2%2F4%2F2%2F10242068%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-84-76-ngc-census-61-74-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1181-8816.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-84-76-ngc-census-61-74-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1181-8816.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-84-76-ngc-census-61-74-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1181-8816.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B9%2F2%2F6%2F4%2F9264427%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And then you have the coins like these where the wear, again in the exact same area, has progressed to the point to be quite similar to the OP's coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-88-89-ngc-census-61-75-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8552.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-88-89-ngc-census-61-75-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8552.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-88-89-ngc-census-61-75-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8552.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F8%2F8%2F14888267%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1223-3337.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1223-3337.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1223-3337.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F9%2F1%2F0%2F12910630%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1181-3273.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1181-3273.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515" rel="nofollow">https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1181-3273.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B9%2F2%2F6%2F5%2F9265226%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So you see, not all examples of this coin, same date/mint, have wear in that specific area. And not only CAN wear occur in that specific area, it quite commonly and <u>progressively</u> DOES occur in that specific area - without affecting the rest of the coin as you suggested.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2670999, member: 112"]Just because one does not understand how such wear could occur, does not mean that such wear does indeed occur. You apparently don't realize it but you prove my point for me with those comments. I'll start with these. They have no wear in the area in question. (and if anyone cannot see the posted pics well enough then go to the link and blow them up so you can.) [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-87-90-ngc-census-61-76-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8551.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F2%2F2%2F0%2F11220541%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-cac-pcgs-population-85-84-ngc-census-61-75-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/1204-8555.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F2%2F2%2F0%2F11220541%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] Then you have the where such wear is just beginning - in the exact same area. [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-fs-301-r3-ms65-pcgs-cac/a/1222-3559.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F8%2F0%2F12780340%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-cac-fs-301/a/1188-3286.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F2%2F4%2F2%2F10242068%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-84-76-ngc-census-61-74-mintage-343-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fre/a/1181-8816.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B9%2F2%2F6%2F4%2F9264427%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] And then you have the coins like these where the wear, again in the exact same area, has progressed to the point to be quite similar to the OP's coin. [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-pcgs-pcgs-population-88-89-ngc-census-61-75-cdn-775-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-ms65-m/a/1251-8552.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F8%2F8%2F14888267%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1223-3337.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F9%2F1%2F0%2F12910630%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [url]https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-cent-silver/two-and-three-cents/1862-1-3cs-ms65-ngc-fs-301/a/1181-3273.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515[/url] [IMG]https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B9%2F2%2F6%2F5%2F9265226%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] So you see, not all examples of this coin, same date/mint, have wear in that specific area. And not only CAN wear occur in that specific area, it quite commonly and [U]progressively[/U] DOES occur in that specific area - without affecting the rest of the coin as you suggested.[/QUOTE]
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