Deeply toned coins can be hard to grade IMO.

65 Pretty coin.

 

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I'm in the 65 camp, here ..

 

I may have to change my call on this specimen , as since I've returned home from a business trip and researched this coin.
I'm torned between an 1862 DDR- 001 @ ms-62/63 or a proof 1862 DDR-001
Now what threw me off at first glance was that the proof dies used in 1862 were also used to strike the 62 business strikes.
Now here's where it gets tricky if you notice the stars and leaves are doubled on both the MS and Proof specimens .
But......since only 550 proof strikes are known and 343,000 ms coins struck ,along with the die crack running through the "6" I'm going with ms 63 and a ddr 001 placing the value in the $350. Range. Very sweet coin and neat variety . Two thumbs up And I will add probably LDS due to the crack in the 6

 

Some big-bucks differences of opinion here -- when do we get the final word?

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Just about every 3-cent silver I've ever seen is heavily-clashed, including the two XF-AU's in my two type sets. No big deal on that factor, due solely to planchet thickness. It's inevitable.

 

Final word this evening. AU50 to MS65 so far. Big differences.

 

I started to call it a 66 but figured the tiny rim dings held it back.

 

There's something else that I've noticed . The 2 looks from the given image to be a repunched 2. There's none known in my references on the 1862 fish scales. Also there's something else....there seems to be dots over each of the digits , at lease from again the images posted.
Perhaps markers on the die to place the digits in correct location. Again not sure as enlarging the area makes it a tough call. Take a look anyone else seeing them?

 

It looks like the 1862/1 overdate to me.

 

I've been looking for a nice 3CS for some time and from what I've looked at I'd guess MS 64/65. The mark on the obverse field that's not a clash mark would push it towards the lower grade. Otherwise it's a nice strike.

 

Yes now seeing the mark could be.

 

For me, MS62

petronius

 

MS-63

 

These little things are tough to grade even in person. It's just a guess what the services will call them.

 

But they have always used the same standards.
That's what they tell us.

 

It could be said those two statements form cause and effect.

 

64

 

This is and has been a on my mind ever since the grading of coins by a TPG.
My thoughts if you had a tooth ache you wouldn't go to a proctlogist you see a dentists. True both are doctors however ,each working on the opposite ends!
So why would you send a coin from a series that the TPG grader has no knowledge ?
Yes I'm sure someone will post a reply that they are supposed to be an expert in grading coins. All coins.....I say not so.
Going back to my opening statement yeah I would see a Veterinarian as they have a degree a B.S. medical school, and another 4 years of Veterinarian school.
That said yeah I would see a Vet over any other doctor if a dentist wasn't available .
Now if a so called expert on grading doesn't know the series he/she is grading how can they make a call ?
I have seen posted in here lots of times where an honest member states "not a series that I collect or am I familiar with."
So you send in x number of coins to a TPG they like others who work need to produce a certain amount of coins daily.
That said if they have to process x number of coins a day....how long do you think they would spend on a specimen understanding it's variety , or any other special tid - bit of information on said coin?
After all they have to fill a quota because more coins are needed to be graded.
So just how long is spent on each coin on a 20 coin submission ? How many series does a so called expert know everything they would need to know in order to get it right?

 

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