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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 410825, member: 66&quot;]Actually he doesn&#039;t list it as a rare variety but as a very rare die state.&nbsp; Well it is a common variety in a scarcer but not a very rare die state.</p><p><br /></p><p>Toad is correct about the variety, it is a C-9 not a C-2.&nbsp; There are several small differences but not one big difference I can point to that would be immediately obvious to a non-variety collector.&nbsp; And as to my qualifications, I&#039;ve been an EACer since 1982 and a collector of copper by variety since 1985 so I&#039;ve got 22 years experience attributing half cents and large cents.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you will note Toad says that the late state C-9 does have a similar cud to that found on the late state C-2.&nbsp; The cuds are not quite the same though since the start and end at different locations.</p><p><br /></p><p>I feel they are exaggerating somewhat on the rarity of the die state, but since they are not actually claiming that this is a C-2 I won&#039;t get too outraged over it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Toad, you are of course correct about the 1804 being a fake, but it is the die work that condemns it not the fact that it has a plain edge.&nbsp; As you mention their is one known plain edge 1804 dollar and at the moment it is th only one known.&nbsp; But I do believe that there is a small possibility that a second plain edge specimen exists.&nbsp; When they first started making the restrikes in 1858-59 all of them were plain edged.&nbsp; When complaints began to circulate about mint employees creating restrikes of rarities th plain edged 1804&#039;s were mentioned specifically and the mint took steps to buy them back.&nbsp; But contemporary reports claimed that at least one specimen left the country before the mint began buying them back.&nbsp; This rumored coin has not been seen since.&nbsp; If it does exist it may just show up again some day.&nbsp; So don&#039;t condemn an 1804 dollar just because it has a plain edge.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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