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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 7961010, member: 112&quot;]Yes it is. But to be guilty of it you have to <u>know, be aware,</u> the property is/was stolen. </p><p><br /></p><p>But this system you&#039;re talking about, it&#039;s impossible for such a system, at least one that is effective and actually works, to even exist. That&#039;s because of the time frames involved. For example, some of the coins that were stolen from me, they were stolen and sold to a dealer - BEFORE I even knew the theft had occurred ! I did not know my home had been broken into until many hours AFTER it happened. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now in other cases it may be days or even weeks before an owner even finds out his coins were stolen. But even if it&#039;s just 10-12 hours as it was with me, that is still plenty of time for the coins to be stolen, and sold to legitimate dealers, long before the theft is reported. Which is precisely why no such system as you suggest could even exist.</p><p><br /></p><p>The best system that can exist is the one we already have !</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Luck had nothing to do with it. The only reason I got my coins back like I did was because that&#039;s what the law was where I lived at the time - and because I could prove those exact coins were mine. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now in your case, I don&#039;t know what the particulars were, but if the laws where you live, and or where the auction house is located, were different; or if you could not prove those exact coins were yours - then you would have no legal basis for recovery. </p><p><br /></p><p>But if the laws in the pertinent jurisdictions demanded it, and you could prove those exact coins were yours, then the auction houses would have given you back your coins, or cooperated with the authorities if the coins had already been sold, because they would have no choice but to do so. And since they didn&#039;t, then I have to suspect that one or both of the things I mentioned above is true.</p><p><br /></p><p>You have to keep in mind that different jurisdictions have different laws, and only those laws apply in those jurisdictions. My point is simple, you cannot blame the auction house when they did not break the law that applied to them.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of people forget that collectors have a responsibility to protect themselves and their property. And they can do this by getting receipts for each and every coin they buy, and or keeping documentation of inheritance, and value at the time. And if the coins involved are raw, and thus have no slab serial numbers, then it becomes almost impossible to prove those exact coins were ever yours to begin with. And if you can&#039;t prove ownership then you&#039;re out of luck because the law will work against you - not for you. And my point here is that you cannot blame others for your own lack of responsibility. You can only blame yourself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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