Dealer mistake that benefited me..

how about i give you a chance to atone for your mistake send me the highest graded draped bust you got and we will say all is forgiven lol yes this time i am after vicky i hope the seller doesnt know what he is doing and i cant see the coins in the pics the top coin covers the bottom 2 can be a hoax or can be the buy of the month i remember i got a vicky worth 500 for 30 bucks even though the seller knew it was 500 and said that in the listing but no one believed him and the auction ended at 30. the seller was also very happy that i won because when he was trying to sell it to me outright to me for $20 and i said i cant take advantage of you like that. there is a god and no matter how successful or knowledgeable we become we are not it

 

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I agree Cherry picking is not the same and I agree with Mark Feld on this. I have correct many a cashier over the years on trying to give me change.

 

Hey gang, I have to applaud the fact the I am among honest thiefs. (tongue in cheek). Mark Feld, I would not have a second thought purchasing a coin from you based on a description of the coin that you give me. Same goes for most of the posters here in CT. Everybody wants a deal, theres no secret to that. Cherrypicking is having knowledge and using it. Most dealers could care less about Overton when it comes to Busties as I am sure Mark or Ben can attest.

Good to be a part of the elite group here in CT.

 

Thank you Jim. By the way, what's an "Overton"?:secret:

 

Mark,

I understand what you are saying and that is why that I will ask a Coin Dealer or other person twice and sometimes three times, if that is the price of the coin! However, in the first posting you related Cherrypicking and purchasing a coin based on a mis-quoted price as one and the same, at least that is the way that it came across!

I am about as honest as anyone can be that deals in coins but I guess that I have a different perspective on Coin Dealer tactics and honesty when selling and purchasing coins! I have had many Coin Dealers pull out their' Greysheets and run their' finger across the sheet on a line (different Date and/or Mint) for a coin that has a leaser value than the one that I am selling and state that that is the price that they will give me for the coin. At the same time, I have had Coin Dealers pull out their' Greysheets and run their' finger across the sheet on a line (different Date and/or Mint) for a coin that has a higher value than the one that I am buying and state that that is the price that they will take for the coin. I have caught these same Coin Dealers doing this many, many times with me and other customers and when confronted, they blow it off as a simple mistake. Yea right! Once or twice is a mistake, five times or more which I have seen, is intentional! I have also seen many Coin Dealers purchase $300+ worth of Morgan Silver Dollars from elderly men and women for $75 or less. Now, who is the more honest in their' dealings??!!


Frank

 

Oh Spock, your offer is most generous, but we don't travel much with all the animals we have, hence my lack of memberships in such august organizations lke the 'Bust Half Nut Club' etc., which require considerable travel.

However if you'd like to visit the Badlands of SD and see them in person; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badlands_National_Park

You are more than welcome, just bring some hiking boots, tent, shovel, pistol, axe, and other stuff one might need to dig out after a summer t-storm... LOL.

 

Frank, sadly, there are a lot of dishonest coin dealers, just as there are a lot of dishonest collectors and dishonest people in other hobbies/professions. I hope, however, that such behavior doesn't encourage (or provide an excuse to) others to do the same.

 

ill meet you halfway-down below the mountain in a hotel i cant climb up the mountain anymore

 

Chuckle, the nature of coin dealing/collecting is the DEAL. Be you the one on the receiving end or the loosing end. We're simply talking about small antique deals here.

For example; we had a fellow who'd (supposedly) made friends with my mother thru a Senior Assisted Living Facility in Texas shortly before she died in 2006. He attended her funeral and even followed us out to the farm after we had her funeral in early 2007. This old boy said he was there to claim the Chippendale Love Seat she'd traded him when she was living in the facility at Huntsville. My brother and I both (after laughing outloud) asked to see any documentation, supporting such a claim and he said he quickly retorted he couldn't locate it, but stood by his 'then changed story' that he'd purchased the chair from mom in the fall of 2006. By now, the smell of fish was very strong indeed since she died about then and we'd held off until after the Christmas Holidays for her memorial service.

FWIW, this was impossible since mom's finances were controlled by by little brother Norman since she'd been diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 2002 and was incapable of any sort of transaction like this. And the fact that the Love Seat is with me in South Dakota at this time and has been so since 1999.

Norm, walked into the kitchen and began dailing the cops and this fellow hit the road. His listed in the Houston Yellow Pages I believe, and please be careful.

"Wakefields Historical Antiques and Books."

So, as you can see, some will go to extreme ends to try and complete/steal a deal.

Ben

 

I think overall I agree with Mark on this one. In coins there are 'deals' and there are 'steals'.

I was at a show a couple of weeks ago and the average buying price of the coin I was seeking in the grade and attribution I am wanting is $160. The coin is tpg'd by PCGS so there's a known fair market value.

The dealer quoted it at $27. I handed the coin back and replied, 'no, sorry, I don't think so.' At first he was a little huffy and then rechecked his sheet to find a compromise and that was when he noticed his error - he'd look at the wrong line. So I said to him 'ok, now... where can we compromise between $27 and $160.' He said 'How about $100.' I said 'Um.. nope, how about $125.' He laughed and said "$110 -- but that's my last offer." and I answered, "i'll take it'.

I'm sure I'll take some responses pro and con on this but in my mind what goes around comes around and I enjoy a good bargain as much as anyone but taking advantage of an error isn't cherry picking, it's just taking advantage. Cherry picking in my mind means finding the coins that are raw, have not been attributed with the authentication. Deals, not steals.