Dealer, Collector, Dealer/Collector?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kentucky, May 25, 2019.

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What would you consider yourself?

  1. Dealer, I don't collect

    1.5%
  2. Dealer and collector of some

    24.2%
  3. Collector, I don't sell much if any

    74.2%
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  1. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    When I started out, I was an accumulator. It took quite a few years before I feel I truly could be called a collector. I have set up a table at numerous coin shows over the years, but I would never call myself a dealer. Nope, I am a coin collector and that's what I will remain.
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You just described me as a dealer and a collector. lol
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...it's a slippery slope...
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Well I slid right on in and I'm ok with that. :)
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I’m a hoarder and I admit it. I happily trade away any duplicate coins I have. I’ve sold only a handful of coins, and am considering selling off more to make room for new stuff. I do not consider myself to be in the “dealer category”. I try to limit purchases “just can’t say no” or “I really want that” instead of “I’ll make a quick buck here”. I’ll end up losing money on future sales of my excess stuff (bad purchases). I just pretend it’s money I didn’t have before and try to walk away happy. I also consider bullion purchases/sales to be investment money and keep it separate from my coins hobby.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I know that hoarder feeling.
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I too am a collector/hoarder. I have two friends that are dealers. Both tell me they do not mix their business with their personal pleasure. Coins are simply business to them both.
     
  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I am purely a collector, but I usually sell my coins if I find an upgrade. Dealer? No, it wouldn’t be fun anymore as I would need to make money buying and selling coins.
     
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  10. All collectors should sell a coin periodically just to get the experience of it. I think seeing how things feel and work when selling helps when buying. JMO
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I have heard (seen) many people saying that...or maybe just you several times :) the question it invariably raises in my mind is...where? If I don't sell many, does it make sense to try and sell on flea-bay? Sell to a dealer? Sell on CT? I have sold some recently on a bid board.
     
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  12. Anywhere is fine, but my suggestion is to sell in the venues you buy from as that helps with your direct experience. I mainly collect but have sold on eBay, CT, and at shows.
     
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  13. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    If I pay table fees for a table at a coin show,vthen for one, two, three days, I am a professional dealer. If I accept money to repair a neighbor's car or paint their kitchen, then I am a professional for that job. If a journeyman plumber fixes his sink is he a professional if he doesn't get paid for the job?
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I’m a collector who will sell coins I’ve upgraded in my collection.
     
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  15. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    No. You’re just a neighbor who may or may not be qualified.

    Professional: engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2019
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  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Despite working full-time in another field, and not strictly fitting Doug's definition, I still call myself a dealer.

    I have undertaken the following specific actions / expenses in order to be effective in this marketplace:
    • Conducted business transactions exclusively through business-dedicated bank accounts
    • Established a dedicated business office space
    • Filed my business annually with the NH Secretary of State
    • Registered my business trademark with the US Patent & Trademark Office
    • Paid for professional staging and photography of advertising imagery
    • Copyrighted my advertising imagery
    • Paid to erect a professional e-commerce website
    • Subscribed to monthly maintenance of the website
    • Paid annually for dealer's insurance policy
    • Subscribed annually to paid business periodicals and memberships
    • Offered for resale every coin purchased by the business
    • Filed and paid my tax liability to the IRS annually
    Moreover, I spend between 24 and 32 hours weekly carrying out my normal business activities.

    I think the foregoing actions go a long way toward differentiating ToughCOINS from vest-pocket dealer status.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2019
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  17. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I think what @ToughCOINS properly described is a professional dealer. I am still conjuring up what I believe my ideal definition of a dealer is, but I’ve met quite a few who don’t do half of those things but make their money selling coins. Some I am unsure ignore they pay their taxes. I think this definition represents the steps we would hope a professional dealer would take, but that not all dealers do.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Yup, that's front-pants-pocket or better!! :)
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'm unfamiliar with that expression. What does it mean?
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think so understand but with me it's simple: Left front pants pocket is spend
    Right front pants pocket is keep
    Wallet: Front is keep and Back is spend.
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Uhhh, if I were you I'd consider the source Mike :D Pretty sure it's nothing more than a play on words - a joke :)
     
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