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<p>[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 503019, member: 16510"]<b>No such thing in modern times</b></p><p><br /></p><p>There is no such thing as "date & or mint-mark" dies since about 1990.</p><p>The entire image is transferred from the working hub to the working die. Before that from master die to working hubb and before that from the master hubb to master die, (the simple explanation).</p><p>The entire image is on the finished working die in modern times. date, mint-mark and all the lettering, numbers, and design.</p><p>Before 1990 the mint-mark was punched into the finished die with a punch with a single letter, (P - D or S), (depending on what denomination it is).</p><p>I suppose the mint-mark punch could be considered a type of die but it does not strike any coins.</p><p>It was common during the 1800's and into the early 1900' to also re-punch, (or re-engrave) some elements of the dates also esp. the last 1 or 2 digits of the date into the master hubb but rarely into the working die itself. It would not make much sense to re-punch an added number into the working die when you can achieve the same effect, (by re-engraving) into the master or working hubb thus eliminating extra steps.</p><p>Through all this you must remember (in modern times) that the finished working die is a complete negative image of what the finished coin will look like, it's all there.</p><p>To more specifically answer your question it is a die that strikes the coin and punches, tooling or re-engraving is done by devices not generally considered to be dies at all only tools to help create dies.</p><p>Ben Peters[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 503019, member: 16510"][b]No such thing in modern times[/b] There is no such thing as "date & or mint-mark" dies since about 1990. The entire image is transferred from the working hub to the working die. Before that from master die to working hubb and before that from the master hubb to master die, (the simple explanation). The entire image is on the finished working die in modern times. date, mint-mark and all the lettering, numbers, and design. Before 1990 the mint-mark was punched into the finished die with a punch with a single letter, (P - D or S), (depending on what denomination it is). I suppose the mint-mark punch could be considered a type of die but it does not strike any coins. It was common during the 1800's and into the early 1900' to also re-punch, (or re-engrave) some elements of the dates also esp. the last 1 or 2 digits of the date into the master hubb but rarely into the working die itself. It would not make much sense to re-punch an added number into the working die when you can achieve the same effect, (by re-engraving) into the master or working hubb thus eliminating extra steps. Through all this you must remember (in modern times) that the finished working die is a complete negative image of what the finished coin will look like, it's all there. To more specifically answer your question it is a die that strikes the coin and punches, tooling or re-engraving is done by devices not generally considered to be dies at all only tools to help create dies. Ben Peters[/QUOTE]
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